bibo_boy

Following all that's been said about the recent Rolling Road Day at EA, I thought I had to say a few words.....

Firstly, I'm gutted about Simon57's car.... I know the cost of loosing an engine

Further more, I feel that as there had been many Rolling Road days at EA in the past, they would be safe enough to use for this event.... (I have used them personally several times in the past and have had great service)

I can't comment on the fact if they should have used monitoring equipment or not.... I've been to loads of events and most haven't......?

As for Nates issue.... I'm surprised and regret how they dealt with him....

As for his comments regarding the figures being out? All I can do is contact them asking for clarification about this......?

If it transpires that the rollers were out, I will of course speak to them regarding compensation.

Thanks Ian

frayz

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Fair comments, although you should in no way whatsoever feel responsible.

Nate

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Agree with Frayz, Ian you are not responsible for any *possible* problems on the day.

Maybe they thought they would ruin peoples days *if* the rollers were out, and carried on, maybe they were not out, I wasn;t there, but thought it best to bring the bearing issue to light.

I just wasn't satisfied with the way they dealt with me, and I personally will not be putting any custom their way from now on.

From what I heard, you organised a good day, and should not feel responsible.

53

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Agree with that.


As long as they were under

bibo_boy

Cheers guys.... I will be contacting them though.....

BRI4N

It was a superb day. Both Ben and I had a great time.

Big shame about Simon's car and IMO all too easy to say "why didn't they use...blah,blah" after the event rather than saying "make sure they use..." beforehand.

As for the figures, mine seemed about right for the minimal mods done.

stringostar

alright all you darn sarf!!!! i dont mean to pour salt into the wound, but the dyno day we had at AET in normanton a couple of weeks back, with the WYIOC was fantastic, very well organised, and the guys at AET were fab. it was my first time on a dyno, and they explained what they were doin, how it worked etc... i think all the club events, whether it be ESC, NYSOC or WYIOC are very well organised and its a shame that something happens to go wrong..

stringostar.

simon57

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You northern moneeeeky. back from the working mans club are we. left the whippet outside.

How very dare you come on here and rub salt in.

I'll keep a look out for you in batley next week mister. Got your number

stringostar

i work in heckmondwike mate, which if ya dont know, is next door to batley! i also drive for Arriva, so if you see a mentle bus driver flashing his lights at you its me!!

oh, you forgot to add ya flat cap wearing bitter swilling bloke to ya openin sentance!!!

simon57

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What about the black pudding and friday nite at the frontier then.

stringostar

dunt ate black puddin old ****, its a bit rank for my pallett! as for the frontier, never been, altho i work near there, i live 20 miles away! so a joe baxi home is a bit dear! do ya come up often simon??

simon57

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My office is down bradford road. so i'm up quite often. plus me best mate moved to methley.

Many a currey in akbars in bradford or aldos italian.

Your a lucky bloke living near to the lake district and all the roads around wakfield.

stringostar

i live in normanton, bout a mile away from AET!!! what do you do for a living?? the roads round waki are some of the best i have experienced... if ya get chance, go down the a1079, over hull/bridlington way on, there are some great b roads round there! take sat nav too, easy to get lost!!!

as for curries, akbars is a placed i went to bout 18 months ago!! so i know what ya mean when ya say they are good!!

Budgie

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this thread has suddenly turned into
the x files

budgie

simon57

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Here we go............bet your glad this 'bearing' problem has come up with your RR figures mr budgie..And im sure bucks was featured in one of the X files..

Budgie

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not at all simon
i feel sad for the way your day turned out
and am keeping an eye to the posts of people
more in the know that me(behave ed)
in the hope of learning something
but i have to agree with tiny
i dont remember that whining noise before
even when bubble ran his skyline
and as for my results, 463 is fine with me
i love my new car
it goes of to abw on the 12th
its going to come home as good as the old car,and some

budgie

btw, 500 is in the pipeline
(but dont tell jackie)

yellowvanman

Agreed, it is all too easy to clever in hindsight.

frayz

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More boost and some meth and 500 will be easily acheiveable.

Milamber

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Me too, think they have one in Middlesbrough too...

Wakefield or more importantly the Waterton Park Hotel is like a 2nd home for me

Cocker

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Same here

simon57

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Was only joking with the bearing matie.If i spoke what i wrote it would have sounded different..if you know what a mean 'digging a deeper hole'

What i should of said was i was only showing a northerner a bit of love. just like we do with you coming from bucks.

stringostar

waterton park is about 2 miles from home!!! next time your up i'll meet ya at the redbeck motel for a brekkie! its open all night too

Budgie

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i know you was m8
i may have come across as a bit serious
but when your engine lets go
it is serious
and if thats because someone in the know should
have taken more care
we all need to see the outcome

budgie

btw si(nobody else read this please)
i thrive on the stick you lot give me
after all, you cant help it
you are from essex

simon57

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I love you. Anyway i thought oil on bearings is a good thing.

Mocom Racing

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Pubtalk again How can or were they out? What do you use as a baseline?
Most had their fun Sunday, let's leave it at that.

IMO I feel their bhp figure was close enough.
I use Ecuteks Delta Dash product for my power 'estimations' and with the correction figure I apply they seem to match EA's power figures with EAs torque figure reading lower. On the way upto EA I ran 350ftlbs/410bhp on Deltadash, EA's rollers showed 328ftlbs/417bhp.
On Clive Atthowes RR both power and torque match the DD figures using my correction.
From the log of my run on Sunday peak boost (1.4bar) wasn't until 3800rpm running in 5th gear - on the road in 5th it hits peak boost (1.5bar) at 3100rpm - not a very good simulation of your engines power delivery.

Things that alarmed me Sunday, runs continuing with KnockLinks glowing red, fans off during set-up including running between 3000 and 4000rpm whilst loaded up causing inlet temperatures to rocket - my car has a good cold air feed and saw close to 60 degrees, 53WRX's car was above 70degrees and they were going to run it until I asked them not to until the temperatures were brought under control. DCCD's not locked.

Inlet temperatures would go some way to explaining Budgies 60bhp deficit, although a genuine 500 from a stock location blower is pushing it

Si's figures were about right for a pushed GT53R.

FYI, EA were aware of a mechanical issue with their rollers before Sunday.

Milamber

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Really? Cool, I love that place. I get sooo bored sitting in a hotel by myself. I hate expenses I really do

53

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I don't know what this means but I am very grateful Zak sat in for my run. TBH whilst it was fun (for some) on sunday, I am left feeling slightly disconcerted by the EA Rolling Road experience, which actually doesn't feel very nice.

Nate

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I've opened a can of worms, haven't I ???

bibo_boy

Anyone fancy an ESC weekend meet in the lakes for some fell walking and a curry

bibo_boy

Just for info Zak.... I agree their set-up is not ideal for cooling but we knew that before.....

As for DCCD not locked off.... I forgot to set it, but when I drove my car off the rollers noticed they had locked it for me....... They must of forgotton the others?

I think your right mate.... most people had fun and it's probably best left at that....? I noticed people on the day saying their figures matched est. results so I'm not sure it was miles out...?