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Old 02 October 2012, 06:17 PM
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i have a simtek ecu on my type r

how much hassle is it to have the anti lag and launch enabled

id like the 2 maps on it if i could to

anyone shed any light?

do i have to pay for a license or is it just a case of having the switches installed/install them myself and then mapped according?

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Old 02 October 2012, 06:26 PM
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£150 for al/lc enabled and a second map will be whatever the mapper wants to charge you
Old 02 October 2012, 06:56 PM
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as above it shouldnt cost much probably cheaper if you go to the original mapper
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If you take it to another dealer other than original mapper they wont be able to just add he antilag as the software the new dealer will use will only allow a new map to be loaded, no access to current map. Therefore it will require a full remap and the als unlock code. M
Therefore best to go back to original mapper to have the als added
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spoke to the original mapper before or at least the place the ecu was purchased from and installed

he really did not want to add anti l;ag or launch as he said it ruins the car

i was like yh

but i want it fitting

seem a bit of a miserable old fart...or didnt wanna help me as i was being busy asking him to clarify a few tyhings about a car i had bought off a person who had spent literally thouasands with him

i forget what the place was called

jolly green monster

i here your the best

how much for a full remap and enable everything i want if i come to you?

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Thats not good. I know it can be difficult to run a business and answer the phone, especially when busy but when you are wanting to spend money with them etc. I am surprised they said that, express an opinion but if you want something then you deserve to be able to pay for it to be fitted.

You have pm

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is there anyway of having full throttle shifts to? or would this be done similarly to launch off a clutch pedal switch etc?

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Speak to your chosen mapper about getting your Simtek upgraded to AlcaTek - you can then buy the motorsport upgrade that includes ALS and LC and also "full throttle shifting" - it's about £100, plus the AlcaTek upgrade charge of around £50. You'll get a whole heap more functionality including 8 maps and LC rpm adjustment if you add a Toucan
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Hi there just stumbled on this thread, the mapper I had chosen didn't mention anything about needing to use the original mapper with Simtek, I guess this means he won't be able to gain access to the original map, and only create a new one
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The map contents is protect and locked to original mapper

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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
The map contents is protect and locked to original mapper

Simon
Unless of course, the original mapper feels like providing the map to the new mapper. It can then be re-loaded into the ecu by a new mapper and the ALS and launch added very easily.
Unfortunately, although some of us are very happy to do just that, some of the other mappers out there won't. They are so full of themselves, they think us mere mortals would instantly gain something from seeing one of their maps
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Unless of course, the original mapper feels like providing the map to the new mapper. It can then be re-loaded into the ecu by a new mapper and the ALS and launch added very easily.
Unfortunately, although some of us are very happy to do just that, some of the other mappers out there won't. They are so full of themselves, they think us mere mortals would instantly gain something from seeing one of their maps
Lmfao. Very true.
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Unless of course, the original mapper feels like providing the map to the new mapper. It can then be re-loaded into the ecu by a new mapper and the ALS and launch added very easily.
Unfortunately, although some of us are very happy to do just that, some of the other mappers out there won't. They are so full of themselves, they think us mere mortals would instantly gain something from seeing one of their maps
I think it's more like they dont want their work (map) being criticised by other mappers when the map is more than likley to be fine in the first place
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Originally Posted by JTinnovations
Speak to your chosen mapper about getting your Simtek upgraded to AlcaTek - you can then buy the motorsport upgrade that includes ALS and LC and also "full throttle shifting" - it's about £100, plus the AlcaTek upgrade charge of around £50. You'll get a whole heap more functionality including 8 maps and LC rpm adjustment if you add a Toucan
so does this mean il be scrapping my simtek in favour of alkatek or is it just a software upgrade?

£150 doesnt seem bad to have all that enabled...and then obviously its just the cost of another remap?
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It's a software upgrade
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just had a look at a 'toucan'

very impressed and another toy to bore the head of people with explaining what it is

more add on electronic gizzmos that actually do something haha
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Sorry to jack OP but I've got a quick question, if I do the AlcaTek upgrade will it keep my current map?
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Your current map will be ported over, with a couple of provisos and warnings - it will run and be safe, but you should really keep if off boost until checked. Also the new functionality will need to be setup by your mapper (such as closed loop idle).

You should really co-ordinate the upgrade with a map-tweaking session
Old 03 October 2012, 05:14 PM
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Can simon jgm do all this?
Old 03 October 2012, 05:17 PM
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Really Simon should answer this...sorry Si lol...but the upgrade will need to be done by AlcaTek and then Simon can do everything else. He can probably co-ordinate the upgrade too.

The update is not officially released yet by the way.
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When is it out then?

Im looking at 150 then plus a remap? Which is a similar price to having the launch and anti lag enabled anyway

Is a toucan essential?

What does it display?

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Originally Posted by d.kenny
When is it out then?
Very soon now I believe.
Originally Posted by d.kenny
Is a toucan essential?
Without Toucan, you will not be able to adjust launch rpm without getting a laptop out. Toucan provides touchscreen on/off for LC and ALS, and allows you to select 8 MAPs and 2 ALS maps: without Toucan you can still use switches for this.

Originally Posted by d.kenny
What does it display?
As well as that above, it displays gauges for any sensor connected to the ECU - by default that will be Boost, Battery Volts, throttle position, rpm, road speed, coolant temp and lambda. You can set alarms on any parameter. Any sensor failures are also reported, along with knock and excessive injector duty.

You can also wire oil temp and pressure, and fuel pressure sensors directly to the ECU, and a wideband lambda and EGT via external amplifiers. You can then monitor those on Toucan as well as set up engine trips and limp modes in the ecu to protect your engine.
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lap top sounds even more ****

id probably go for that option

any i-pad interface available?
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Originally Posted by d.kenny
any i-pad interface available?
not that I know of.
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can you confirm prices overall

150 for software updates

then a remap

and i have to pay for the license or whatever to allow another person to remap it?
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think it may have been powerstation who originally supplied and mapped the ecu?

does this mean anything to anyone

im not 100%

but im pretty sure it was done here as its local to where the car was from and i remebered looking on the site before and looking at the porsche brake upgrades

it does not mention anywhere on their site about simtek so is it a possibility that they may have got someone else in to install and map the ecu?

they quote ecutek on their site

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Simon needs to comment on prices...but I think transferring the "rights" to map another mapper's work is down to the mappers concerned agreeing to it rather than a charge.
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ok sound

simon has quoted me on the map

when im ready to get it done i will call him to discuss it all

cheers for the info

if you have any links to add or recommendations for my engine build it would be good to

currently running at 320 bhp

vf23
unequal length headers
hks exhaust
unknown injectors fuel pump etc and the simtek

where or what can i do as regards the bottom end?

wanted to bore it out but im told i cant do a 2.3 conversion on mine

want big power to scare me every time i drive it haha


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