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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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Hi Peeps.

Yesterday, I got an e mail off Stephen Done, telling me that David Power and Mervyn from Power Engineering/Ecu Tek were here, in Greece, tuning and modding an EVO 6 and he asked me whether I would like to go and have a look and play with the Delta Dash.

Well I went and found them today. They were working on the EVO 6, fitting DMS suspension and AP brakes, to fitting an ECU and boost controller and heaps more stuff.

They were very helpful towards me. Merv hooked up the Delta Dash to my car and we went for a drive. Top piece of kit. I found that my MAF is probably knackered, cos it came up as a fault in the diagnostic trouble code section and in the data table, the O2 sensor showed that the car was running a little leaner than cars do with the AE 802 ECU.

I had no idea that my MAF could be knackered. The car feels great and it idles well too. So I had no way of telling it was going on me. If I had not hooked up to the delta dash today and not seen the fault code and the info in the data table from the O2 sensor, the leaning out problem would have got worse in time, slowly leading to a blown engine eventually.

This made me realise that the Delta Dash is very usefull cos it can help you see a problem before it becomes very expensive. Due to this, I ordered the software so that I can monitor my engine.

I also got to see heeps of other things, such as knock correction, coolant temperature, Ignition timing, and more.

A big thanks to the lads for firstly, letting me know they were here and also for showing me the Delta Dash. They were very helpful.

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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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Old Apr 7, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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One of the things we monitored, was knock correction. If the timing is being pulled back 2 degrees, does this mean the ECU is picking up det? If so is it dangerous? Or is it normal? What I'm trying to ask is whether it is a bad sign that the ECU has to pull back the timing 2 degrees.

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Old Apr 7, 2002 | 10:17 PM
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2 degrees is quite normal for standard ECUs. Most cars run 1-2 degrees of correction at certain loads/revs. The STIs and PPP can have even more. I've seen up to 5 degrees of correction from a hot car, and that's with everything working properly, but you wouldn't wan to see that very often.

Since you're in Greece (and it's hot I expect) you are likely to see more than us UK'ers. Keep an eye on it, and as a first fix, try turning down your boost controller if you think you've got trouble.

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Old Apr 8, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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Thanks Steve. Advice taken. I will keep an eye on it. Well it's going to be easy now. I'll definately be turning down the boost for summer.

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Old Apr 8, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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John,

I have the AE 802 ECU, 5 Zigen exhaust, APS cold air induction, FCD, Blitz boost controller and the Blitz BOV. It was around 20 degrees celsius and I had my boost controller (Blitz DSBC) on 1.17bar (1.2kg/cm2).

A got a MAF sensor history fault in the diagnostics section. The car felt fine and idled fine though. I had no idea that the MAF could be faulty. Now I have to wait for my Delta Dash software to arrive so I can see if the fault is still there, after we did an ECU reset at the end of our session.

My fuelling data from the O2 sensor was showing 0.86Volts. Although not a lean mixture, (I think), Merv said that this was leaner than he had seen on cars with the AE 802. He was expecting to see a richer mix. The leaner mix may have been, due to either from my MAF, if it's faulty, or from the higher temperature than in the UK, or fuel quality. There are rumours that our advertised 98 RON SUL may only be 95 RON here in Greece. I will be sending a sample to a lab for analysis soon.

In summer, above 25 degrees, and in the middle of summer of which most days are over 36 deg Cel, I will turn it down to between 1.0 bar and 1.15 bar. Ofcourse I will be able to tell what is going on withe the Delta Dash and adjust the boost.

I havent got the data with me from my session with Merv to be able to tell you what my intake temps were and I can't remember. Hopefully Merv will still have my data and hopefully we can all get to see the data on their website, or if I get the data e mailed to me I can let you know again. Or we'll have to wait till I get the Delta Dash software and let you know again. I must say that I now need to purchase a laptop cos I don't have one.

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Wrexy.
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Old Apr 8, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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Keep us updated WREXY since I am interested to see how you go with the Delta Dash software. Wouldnt mind getting your data and putting it through the demo to see what real raw data looks like.
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Old Apr 8, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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There are some example real log files up on the EcuTek site.

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Old Apr 8, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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B5M,

There are downloads and sample files on the EcuTek site here. http://www.ecutek.com/frame_downloads.html

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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 07:19 AM
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Thanks, I have looked at the samples on the EcuTek website. The more there are to play with the better
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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We are hoping that customers will email us their most interesting logs, and we'll put those up on the site too.

My current favourite is the STI7 Type UK log. Have a look at the wastegate duty. The car is holding 15.7PSI of boost at 7300 RPM with the wastegate solenoid bleeding away nothing from the actuator. The wastegate is as open as it can be. I.e. The ecu cannot drop the boost any lower than 15.7PSI at these revs at full load. External wastegate anyone ?

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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 10:35 AM
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By the way, as of today, we have 20 sets of software and hardware in stock. 6 have gone ;-)

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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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Has any body else on here bought one?
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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I'm just awaiting Merv to confirm myself as guinea pig for my motor (P1)....can't wait
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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I've ordered and am hoping very much that it's going to turn up tomorrow - isn't it Steve?????????

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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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>I've ordered and am hoping very much that
>it's going to turn up tomorrow - isn't it Steve?????????
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Should do.
Demand has been fantastic !
We'll be out of stock by the end of the week I think.
Next production run is already under way.

>I'm just awaiting Merv to confirm myself as
>guinea pig for my motor (P1)....can't wait
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The product has already been tested with P1s and works fine.
They are in stock now. Just mail ecutek and order one if you want.

Cheers

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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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Cheers m8 - want to have a play on Saturday morning....

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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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Matt, you gonna go the whole hog and get a Tek 2 as well to get some decent power?

Having mine in next Wednesday, so looking forward to some nice boost

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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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Matt,

I already told you that I'm getting an STi ( ) so no point. What I do to that, at the moment is anyone's guess but I've got some ideas......

Matt
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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 07:22 AM
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Chris,
I think Stephen is on about the Delta Dash software and not the Tek 2 map, or at least that is how I read it.
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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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Ah....my apologies in advance
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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 09:23 AM
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Yes, sorry, I was on about diagnostics.

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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 07:52 PM
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It's diagnostic software which can be downloaded to a laptop and it's similar to the subaru select monitor, the subaru dealers use at service. You plug the cable to where the select monitor plugs into, it reads the ECU and displays, things such as faulty sensors, temperature, air fuel ratio, boost, knock correction, timing, etc. More info here.

http://www.ecutek.com/frame_products.html

Click on Delta Dash.

Cheers,

Wrexy.

[Edited by WREXY - 4/6/2002 7:53:44 PM]
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Old Aug 4, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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How much boost, what typical temperature now, and what ECU?

Me 18.5 PSI, ambient 10-15 C, PPP ECU. Charge temps seem OK on the road - up to 30 C. I want to know what summer will be like!

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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 08:10 PM
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Matt, better do something to it, otherwise it'll be slower than my meek and mild 99
Matt

PS when is it due?

[Edited by Matt Churchill - 4/11/2002 8:12:57 PM]
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 12:46 AM
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Really Steve....I'm confused ?

I was looking forward to paying my £625 for supply and fit.

I mailed you and was advised to go to P.E. direct for supply and fit....I did but they said they were still working on the software for the STi5 (P1) but would like to use my car as a test vehicle....

Have I mis interpereted something along the way.... ?

Chris

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