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Old 17 March 2002, 12:29 PM
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OK, does anyone have any results following this ECUTEK upgrade?
Old 17 March 2002, 04:34 PM
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Yep

Before and after

B4 234 BHP
AFTER 268 BHP

MY00 catless, with 57i

Jase
Old 17 March 2002, 06:53 PM
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On MY98 ecu upgrade from PE

243BHp to 267BHP
227 lbs/ft to 257 lbs/ft


its realy good
Old 17 March 2002, 07:56 PM
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Catless MY00...

From 243BHP / 239lb/ft

to

269BHP / 260lb/ft





J
Old 17 March 2002, 08:33 PM
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Roll on Tuesday. I'll post my figures on here after I get the work done!
Old 17 March 2002, 08:43 PM
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Have any of you gone for the £150 delivered to your door option or is it advisable to have it fitted and tested by PE? How much does this option cost? I have mailed them but haven't had a reply yet.

Thanks
Mike
Old 17 March 2002, 09:10 PM
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I'm definitely interested in this... can I just check though .. the increases to power that are listed above, are they from the £150 swop over ECU, or the custom map ECU?

I'm interested in the performance ECU but the website says it isn't developed yet, plus if the above figures are from the driveability ECU then thats enough power for me !

Graham
Old 17 March 2002, 09:48 PM
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Where's this advertised ????
Old 17 March 2002, 09:49 PM
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ScoobySnack's was the performance map, not the driveability. The rest are all swapout driveability ecus.

Regs.

Steve
Old 17 March 2002, 09:52 PM
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>Have any of you gone for the £150 delivered to your door
>option or is it advisable to have it fitted and tested by
>PE? How much does this option cost? I have mailed them but
>haven't had a reply yet.
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Driveability Map for ae802 ECUs
£150 straight from EcuTek.
£150+VAT fitted by PE.
Dyno runs extra. Only the first couple of customers had free dynos - just to prove it works well.

Hope this helps

Steve
Old 17 March 2002, 09:59 PM
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That's a bloody good price when u consider what PE charge for there mapping service.

Do EcuTek have a web-site ?
Old 17 March 2002, 10:04 PM
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That'll be http://www.ecutek.com then !

btw, PE's mapping service is good value. Be glad you don't have to pay for the upkeep on a 250k engineering & testing facility !

Steve
Old 17 March 2002, 10:05 PM
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Scott, http://www.ecutek.com
Old 17 March 2002, 10:29 PM
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Stephen - congratulations, it's looking good... just to let you know there's something on the ecutek.com site that kills a Macintosh running Mac OS 9.2.2 and Internet Explorer 5.1 stone dead, I've been using Netscape (which works fine) to try to debug what but can't figure it out...

So, can ecutek do anything for my MY98 ECU????

All the best,

Simon.
Old 17 March 2002, 10:30 PM
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Stephen

Do PE/ECUTEK remap owners ECU while they wait or is it swapped for a "here's one I made earlier"? Is the ECU serial number in any way linked to the car - main worry is invalidating warranty. Would a main dealer know if the ECU has been remapped?

Thanks
Mike

Old 17 March 2002, 11:25 PM
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Sorry for being uninformed.

Does this men i could take my uk 99 (with decat and k&n) to Pe throw them 150+vat (and what ever for RR) and i could see a gain of 30 bhp?

Where can i find more information on this service? its very interesting
Old 17 March 2002, 11:56 PM
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Hi Simon,

PE can already remap 98MY ECUs.

Hi Mike,

At the moment, we swap ecus out, and don't reprogram in car, though this is coming. (When I get a minute off the BBS, I'm meant to be building more programmers!). The 99/00 ecus have no internal serial number - they are identical. No immobiliser codes either - they are external to the ecu. Ecu reports as a standard ECU to a select monitor. Virtually any mod you make invalidates your warranty. An ECU swap is no exception. If you lunch a gearbox, you are morally obliged to mention that you've been tinkering !

Hi Catflap,

Yes. Gains dependant on existing ecu and mods you have. More info at www.ecutek.com. Driveability remap only gives large gains when going from ae802 (green labelled) ecu. Check yours. Or get it checked with a select monitor. ae800/801 good. ae802 bad.

Nighty night.

Steve
Old 18 March 2002, 02:16 AM
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Hay steve, thanx for the swift response


Im runing a brown ecu AE800 (the good um i think) Are there gains to be made with this ecu, or does the product cure pitfalls of the less desirable ecu AE802.

Im sure ther are plenty of AE800/801 uses who would love a 30 bhp gain for such a good price (i Know i would)

Thnx again

Old 18 March 2002, 10:41 AM
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Hi Catflap.

The point is that if you already have an 800 or 801 then you already have the +30BHP. Look at the OEM ecu comparison on the ecutek web site.

Steve
Old 18 March 2002, 01:27 PM
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Sorry if we've been here before but has anyone gone from a Dawes MBC to the ECUTEK performance ECU (£500) ? I've only just fitted my Dawes (16PSI held) and seen good improvements to my MY00 so I'm wondering if it gonna be worth it to chuck the Dawes and go for the ECU. Anyone got any AE802 - Dawes dyno figures to compare ?

Ta,

Andy.
Old 18 March 2002, 02:19 PM
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You would still benefit from the MY99 ECU as it allows more advance and is slightly leaner. I personally find +30 BHP difficult to believe between the two ECUs, but that is the way of rolling roads. I could believe +10 BHP. Bear in mind the PPP is rated at +22 BHP on a MY99 based on engine dyno on new engines, and I certainly don't believe I got +52 BHP from PPP on my MY00 (the PPP is the same on MY99 and 00 so I don't think my logic is flawed). Possibly +52 BHP now that I have also decatted, fitted a panel filter, and run about 2-3 PSI more over the range than PPP with boost controller and tightened actuator, but the effect of all this double the effect of PPP in terms of real world performance.

Despite all this +10 genuine BHP worst case for a 800 or 801 ECU for £150 is a good deal. If only everything that claimed +10 BHP were equally effective I would now be running a monster.
Old 18 March 2002, 02:37 PM
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Sorry if we've been here before but has anyone gone from a Dawes MBC to the ECUTEK performance ECU (£500)
I don't think we've been here before 'cos the ECUTEK performance doobrey hasn't been around much over a week!
I have a Dawes & am doing the ecutek delta performance thang tomorrow, & will let you know... I'm expecting not a whopper of a difference according to the numbers (certainly the peak stuff), but the overall 'package' to work a lot better. And am rather more keen on the ECU taking back control of the boost as well...
Old 18 March 2002, 02:59 PM
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I hope and expect you will get a whopper of a difference nom over a standard ECU with Dawes. We found yesterday that even an extra 2 PSI of boost with a Prodrive ECU and Dawes compared with normal ECU and Dawes made a massive difference in either losing the P1 and the Evo or staying with them.
Old 18 March 2002, 03:06 PM
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OK, look - I'm trying to convince myself there won't be that big a difference so it's all the better when there is. So there
I have a feeling that new brakes may be required shortly. Time to drift over to that forum I suppose
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We don't add 2 PSI on top of ProDrive boost as our performance map option. That would be a custom map, and purely at the owners request/risk.

Steve
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I think that was a '2 psi on top of normal ECU' rather than '2 psi on top of PPP', but then reading it again I can see what you mean... John, a little clarification there??
Old 18 March 2002, 03:40 PM
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Phew, that's more sane :-)

Steve
Old 18 March 2002, 03:53 PM
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Thanks guys. Nom I'd be very interested to hear your feedback on the ECU upgrade when you've had time to put it through it's paces
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Ok. Please help me out here as I don’t understand a few things

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Yep

Before and after

B4 234 BHP
AFTER 268 BHP

MY00 catless, with 57i

Jase


We are looking at a jump of 30bhp (allegedly, taking into account accuracy of RR)

The 800/801 cars standard come in at 220, where as the 802 comes in at 207- that’s a 13bhp gain (close to what myself and as john banks mentioned above, think youll see)

So how do we see figures of +30

My own car is almost identical to the one mentioned above, it’s a my 99 (but with the 801 ecu), its decatted and has a 57i

On a recent rolling road I showed 235bhp (sounds reasonable)

If I have the good ecu, how on earth when the not so good ecu was changed did the figures jump to 268?

The math don’t work.

I would love a cheep ecu upgrade, and what im trying to ascertain is does this simply fix shortcomings of 802 (if so then the figures will need some explaining, refer to the example of my own car above vs the quoted car, it can be due to differences in rr as a 30bhp gain would mean that before the ecu upgrade his car was driving around at 204 with decat and k&n, no don’t think so)

or does it do something else?

Is it only the 802`s that will benefit from this.

Sorry for the puzzled post, but im really interested in a 30bhp gain from this ecu, the price for it s fantastic.

Please help. anyone

What ecu`s did you have (those who have had the ecu?)

Thanx catflap
Old 18 March 2002, 04:33 PM
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Yes that is what I mean +2PSI increase from 15-15.5 felt good on the track! PPP runs about 17. I run up to 18.5 held on the road in cool weather, at the top end I probably do run 2 PSI more than PPP. Generally I am running similar/slightly more than what a lot of people get with a remap, but my fuelling is richer and timing probably more retarded. I also run over 99 octane on a car which runs safely (albeit slowly) on 95 RON and have no cats. I think I am at the limit of the tiny turbo.

Keeping the boost this high in temps over 15 C ambient will be subject to knock and inlet temp monitoring. On the road I reckon 18 may still be OK in the height of summer (Scotland ), but I'll need to monitor it and see.

Is it reasonable to say you could blow up your engine by overdoing boost, timing or leanness, but all give you power up to a point? You pick your own threshold. If you want fit and forget and do not tweak your settings or monitor, or do not run high octane, or want a generic map for lots of cars you have to be conservative?

Catflap - I am wondering if a bit more tweaking has gone on with some maps than just a change to an 800 map, but people are reporting results as though it were the same as 802 to 800 map but with "optimistic" gains?

[Edited by john banks - 3/18/2002 4:36:17 PM]


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