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Old 12 February 2002, 12:48 PM
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Got a 00MY with usual suspect add-ons.

The last few months I`ve noticed that about 80% of the time I can feel a slight lumpyess at idle. Tacho is steady, but theres definately a slight mis-fire (or feels like). Drives fine, no check light.

Could it be the MAF showing the first signs of death, could it be a coil-pack/dodgey spark plug?

Any tips gratefully recieved!
Old 12 February 2002, 01:03 PM
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James,

I could be wrong but I think if it was MAF related it wouldn't settle when idling. When the MAF Sensor was giving me trouble it was constantly up & down the revs when trying to idle. I took it out (it's a MY95) & gently cleaned it with contact cleaner & a cotton bud. It was quite dirty. After that the idle settled & is fine. That a few months ago & I intend to check it every few months after the difference it made.

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Old 12 February 2002, 01:11 PM
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Have you had its cambelt changed recently? A couple of teeth out and that can result in lump idle.

I had dodgy plugs and that resulted in hesitaion while accelerating and perfectly normal idle.
Old 12 February 2002, 02:44 PM
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Car is nearly a year old so no changes of cam belts......drops into idle fine, drives fine, its just a very slight knocking / misfire@idle. I can feel it more through my leg against the door board than anywhere else?????????????????

Old 12 February 2002, 05:29 PM
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Have you got an aftermarket dump value, I experienced bad tick over when the dump value was getting stuck/leaking.

Rgds, Alex
Old 12 February 2002, 05:37 PM
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JamesS,

I thought my MAF sensor on my MY99 Type-R was on its way out but now I'm not so sure. It runs fine but every now and then its gets a bit frisky at idle. I'm no expert on these engines but I think they are inherently gruff at idle anyway aren't they?

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Old 13 February 2002, 09:36 AM
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keep em coming.....

Standard Dump Valve. However I do have a monster air filter, K&N cone(good for 600HP!!!), and an additional bonnet scoop feeding it (Ex Andy Tang), proper bell mouth on the cone...........

I noticed the mis-fire shortly after fitting the bonnet scoop...could be linked could be nothing to do with it!!

I could not feel any mis-fire going back a couple of months..........

I had thought that lots of rain + bonnet scoop feeding the Cone may equal dead MAF, but its survived so far (4months) unless this is the first sign........
Old 13 February 2002, 09:54 AM
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James, FWIW, when my MAF went, I could only notice problems at idling. The engine just hunted/stalled sometimes. Fuelling at higher revs was OK, so I first doubted it was the MAF. But it turned out to be the MAF ...
Old 13 February 2002, 11:59 AM
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oh, another thing, maybe 1 out of 5 hot starts it feels like the engine is missing on one cyclinder. Starts but sounds quite rough, with a lower than normal idle speed and goes when I blip the throttle for the first time......
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I thought my MAF was dying but it turned out to be plugs
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JMCA

How did you remove the MAF sensor ,is is complicated , I need to do this at the weekend

Cheers

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You should check if it is the throttle posisition sensor.
My MY98 had strange idle and sometimes it also misfired (coldstart) when the TPS was bad. I changed it and since then I haven´t had any problems.
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lumby,

I have a HKS Induction kit & it's a MY95 so just undid the clips, the mounting from the turret, disconnect the connector & take it all out. You can get at the sensor easily enough inside with a cotton bud & some contact cleaner. Gently does it & it'll remove the gunk. Re-fit & my idle problems were no longer.

Hope that helps.

Johny.
Old 15 February 2002, 09:11 AM
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I know this is a muppet question but what contact cleaner did you use ?

Thaks
Old 15 February 2002, 10:58 AM
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Dave,

I used electrical contact cleaner. Being honest - can't remember where I picked it up. Try http://www.maplin.co.uk/ or http://www.rswww.com

Johny.
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