Sequential conversion kit
03 September 2006, 05:00 PM
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Sequential conversion kit
Looking for a sequential conversion kit for 5-speed subaru gearbox. Found some companys but they only do to 6-speed:
http://www.seqshift.com/
http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/
http://www.seqshift.com/
http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/
03 September 2006, 05:37 PM
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I contacted Seqshift recently and they did not have the system fully sorted for a six speed. About 8 months ago I contacted Ikeya and they had run in to problems. I asked them to get in touch when it was available but heard nothing.
Matt Clark of Roger Clark Motorsport has done at least 2 sequential shifters, one of which is paddle controlled. He is on holiday at present but that may be a starting place. I think the cost at present is somewhat prohibitive.
Matt Clark of Roger Clark Motorsport has done at least 2 sequential shifters, one of which is paddle controlled. He is on holiday at present but that may be a starting place. I think the cost at present is somewhat prohibitive.
03 September 2006, 07:34 PM
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How about this sytem, anyone tested this?
http://au.geocities.com/conquestengineering/index.htm
Where can you buy it? Better homepage?
http://au.geocities.com/conquestengineering/index.htm
Where can you buy it? Better homepage?
04 September 2006, 09:38 AM
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Myself and someone else are developing a sequentially shifted gearbox, which will be available once it has been proven to work..
At the moment is showing promise and can cause serious injury
At the moment is showing promise and can cause serious injury
04 September 2006, 12:38 PM
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Having had the RCMS system explained to me by Matt, it sounds like an excellent piece of kit, and should work to save time both up and down the box in any situation, eliminating "missed" gears or "wrong" selection. As yet, i dont think this is available to the public, until further testing has been carried out, and a price structure developed.
The sequential system David is working on, currently for 5 speeds, is looking good, and would be great to see it passed on to consumers, but like RCMS, they are having to do a lot of testing before it goes public.
A well set up sequential will save time, and IMO, save some damage to the gears themselves, when compared with a FAST manual shift.
The sequential system David is working on, currently for 5 speeds, is looking good, and would be great to see it passed on to consumers, but like RCMS, they are having to do a lot of testing before it goes public.
A well set up sequential will save time, and IMO, save some damage to the gears themselves, when compared with a FAST manual shift.
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04 September 2006, 01:06 PM
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Harvey,
I dont need to dream on.. I've got a gearbox sat on the bench in my garage, currently needs some machining doing to complete the next stage, which Im unable to do, also if you dont believe me then Its not really any loss.. but why would Andrew Carr and Steve (Scoobyduck) be helping me sort out the control code for something that doesnt exist???
I may post some pics tonight, if you really dont believe me!
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I dont need to dream on.. I've got a gearbox sat on the bench in my garage, currently needs some machining doing to complete the next stage, which Im unable to do, also if you dont believe me then Its not really any loss.. but why would Andrew Carr and Steve (Scoobyduck) be helping me sort out the control code for something that doesnt exist???
I may post some pics tonight, if you really dont believe me!
David
04 September 2006, 02:12 PM
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Simon,
It is effectively an add on to a standard casing, but it wont be user fit due to the complexities of modifying a case.. We will probably also suppy it with a gear kit pre built, oh and it will be a dog kit, but I guess you knew that.
What we dont know is how it will behave in slow moving traffic!
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It is effectively an add on to a standard casing, but it wont be user fit due to the complexities of modifying a case.. We will probably also suppy it with a gear kit pre built, oh and it will be a dog kit, but I guess you knew that.
What we dont know is how it will behave in slow moving traffic!
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04 September 2006, 02:31 PM
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still sounds interesting.. currently saving for a gearset.. not overly worried about dogkit 1 to 4 but ideally not in 5th due to motorway noise.. assuming that is possible.. haven't looked into it deliberatly yet otherwise I'd spend the money before I have it..
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04 September 2006, 03:58 PM
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yeah, but it aint going to be smooth changing gear that quickly whilst crawling IYSWIM 
And dont you mean straight cut? / Helical.. Dog is the Engagement
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04 September 2006, 04:06 PM
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ISWYM..
like I said I haven't looked into the insides of a gearbox yet else I will spend money on it. . lol
Current engine was only suppose to be running UK heads and a TD05 20g.. lol
then I looked into it.. lmfao.
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like I said I haven't looked into the insides of a gearbox yet else I will spend money on it. . lol
Current engine was only suppose to be running UK heads and a TD05 20g.. lol
then I looked into it.. lmfao.
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04 September 2006, 05:14 PM
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Nope, Its something I / we are playing with at home if it works then it will be on a company web page - not mine though
04 September 2006, 06:02 PM
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Teaser!
I think the ability of any box that is dog engagement in traffic is a major issue for a multi purpose car, like my hillclimber.
The real market will be for people like myself, not just track stars.
Saw the Ikea (spelling!) shifter in an real race car on Sat and what a nice piece of engineering it looked. Is it a true bolt-on for needs adapting, not interested to buy one (I'm happy to slow change my delicate V3 Trans), just interested.
Still not convinced it would make a big time advantage on a hillclimb.
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I think the ability of any box that is dog engagement in traffic is a major issue for a multi purpose car, like my hillclimber.
The real market will be for people like myself, not just track stars.
Saw the Ikea (spelling!) shifter in an real race car on Sat and what a nice piece of engineering it looked. Is it a true bolt-on for needs adapting, not interested to buy one (I'm happy to slow change my delicate V3 Trans), just interested.
Still not convinced it would make a big time advantage on a hillclimb.
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04 September 2006, 06:41 PM
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David: I don't doubt that you are developing a sequential shift but will it ever be finished?
I would like to see you suceed with it as it could be a useful development for the Scooby community if it ever becomes available commercially.
I would like to see you suceed with it as it could be a useful development for the Scooby community if it ever becomes available commercially.
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04 September 2006, 08:05 PM
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Harvey,
We will have to wait and see how it turns out, And If it can be successfully finished then it will be, Unfortunatley weve been planning it for a fair while, before I heard about the rcms solution which looks very nice! Had that been around and at price a price within my budget then I might have ever started.
As for commercially available, Im not doing this for commercial gain, I just want a nice quick gearchange Make no mistake though, it needs to cover the costs invested so far
David
We will have to wait and see how it turns out, And If it can be successfully finished then it will be, Unfortunatley weve been planning it for a fair while, before I heard about the rcms solution which looks very nice! Had that been around and at price a price within my budget then I might have ever started.
As for commercially available, Im not doing this for commercial gain, I just want a nice quick gearchange
Make no mistake though, it needs to cover the costs invested so far David
04 September 2006, 08:23 PM
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Graham, i drove my own car with a modena dog box through early morning rush hour traffic in Leeds, and if i am honest, it was no different to a shyncro box.
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04 September 2006, 10:38 PM
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Steven... what I mean is, when you were driving that car, you werent changing gear like you do on a drag strip with no clutch on the inner ring road though.. well actually..
Would you really like a sequential trying to do gear changes in 30ms whilst crawling in traffic with the kids in the car? (Actually forget that!)
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Would you really like a sequential trying to do gear changes in 30ms whilst crawling in traffic with the kids in the car? (Actually forget that!)
David
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Graham, i drove my own car with a modena dog box through early morning rush hour traffic in Leeds, and if i am honest, it was no different to a shyncro box.
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Steven... what I mean is, when you were driving that car, you werent changing gear like you do on a drag strip with no clutch on the inner ring road though.. well actually..
Would you really like a sequential trying to do gear changes in 30ms whilst crawling in traffic with the kids in the car? (Actually forget that!)
David
Would you really like a sequential trying to do gear changes in 30ms whilst crawling in traffic with the kids in the car? (Actually forget that!)
David
It's like anything though, you learn to drive around things like that.
Steven
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05 September 2006, 10:48 AM
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Steven,
Granted, however I appreciate this and you apreciate this.. and youll also appreciate
that others wont .. Ill leave that word out..
Just wondering how many times I can use the same word in one post
Granted, however I appreciate this and you apreciate this.. and youll also appreciate
that others wont .. Ill leave that word out..Just wondering how many times I can use the same word in one post
