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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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a mate has an evo which has been mapped on a motec ecu to give pops and bangs on overrun and when the throttle is lifted

what exactly happens when this os in effect?
i belive the timeing is altered to help?

do the pops and bangs happen in the cylinders or actually in the exhaust?
this might seam like a daft post, but im having a total brain freeze and i dont really have a clue whats happening today

if they happen in the exhaust, i cant see how timing would change it?
if its cylinders, does this have an antilag effect?
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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I thought it was just unburnt fuel igniting in a hot exhaust. The map would be very rich at a guess.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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the mapper told him that sumthing was changed in the map to promote it, i could have sworn he said "retarded" which is why i thought timeing was involved?

or it could have just been evo-scooby banter and he was calling me a numpty
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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from what i remember pat saying was its something to do with exhaust timing (may be wrong on that) but it def is mapped into the cars cpu
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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IIRC, if you retard the timing @ certain rev/load levels (i..e on overrun you will have relatively high revs @ little or no load), you will get unburnt fuel delivered into the exhaust due to then fuel not being able to complete its combustion process in the engine, this will hit a hot exhaust and create the pops and bangs.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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so it is in fact both the ecu and the hot exhaust
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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i have a MY93 with upgraded ECU and full de-cat. it pops and bangs through the gears, half sound like an Anti-lag system. it sounds amazing!!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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the car i was in was not just a pop every other gear change, its was multiple bangs, as soon as the throttle was released

it was pretty impressive to be honest
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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I think it is also to do with hitting oxygen in the exhaust which creates a combustable atmosphere (oxygen is needed for a flame), causing the fuel to ignite
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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so if a car's exhause pops and bangs, does this mean then that given the right circumstances, hot exhaust etc that flames will be naturally occuring?
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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My car does spit flames occasionally with no flamer kit.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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My car previously had a Motec ECU fitted to it (unfortunately, the previous owner took it off when he sold it ), and he'd had pops and bangs programmed into the map on the over-run.

Even with the standard ECU, mine used to pop and bang like a good 'un (after I'd changed from the Jetex backbox to a 5" Cobra one anyway!), but unfortunately, after Andy F had supplied, fitted and mapped my Apexi PFC, these pops disappeared

All is not lost though, as after heat-wrapping the downpipe, mine now pops mid-gearchange rather nicely if I take my time with upshifts and the exhaust is hot enough - after it's been sitting in traffic for a minute or two is usually the best time! And I've been told it occasionally spits out small flames as well - cool!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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The pops and bangs are mapped in, i have the same. Its the Evo a little to quick for you now Micky.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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White Knight,

You could always speak to AndyF as he mapped my PFC with 'simulated' anti lag

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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not sure exactly what you mean, i dont have my car at the moment.
i have not driven it for a few weeks

its away getting a few mods done
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Hi,

My car used to pop and bang on overrun with big flames coming out the exhaust. TBH it was nice for a couple of days then it got really annoying so we sorted out the fuel so it cut on ovverrun down to about 1300rpm and it has completely dissapeared. And now getting much better MPG too :-) not throwing in loads of fuel when it's not needed.

George
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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You guys that have a commander with your PFC, check this out

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...hlight=overrun
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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I had tried this a few times, but without much in the way of results, but might give it a go again tonight for our Ipswich Scoobycity meet
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