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Old 07 April 2005, 12:16 AM
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Default Cryogenic fuel bars! Anyone tried one? Results?

I am just curious because i know nothing about this and from what the write up says its an awesome product i am thinking of trying.

Anyone had any experience with these two following products? (MAINLY THE FIRST)

http://www.gsmotorsport.com/design-e...uel-p-261.html

http://www.gsmotorsport.com/design-e...ake-p-262.html

? Any views would be greatful.
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Some one gotta be tuning their cars enough to have tried this out?
Old 07 April 2005, 05:57 PM
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That sounds as though it could be expensive to supply/run. ??
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Quote from the product

The Cry02 Fuel bar is a billet aluminum extension to the fuel line with a cryogenic chamber. The bar is charged with liquid Co2 and freezes to -80 degrees f. Heat is removed from the fuel as it passes through resulting in a colder fuel charge. The Cry02 Fuel Bar comes in -6AN and -10AN fuel line size. Four cryo-ports allow versatility of installation.

It comes complete with vent plug, cryo-port plugs and connection/vent hose. The Cry02 Fuel Bar can be used alone or in conjunction with other Co2 components. It comes either anodized or polished with engraved DEI flame logo.


That must surely have some awesome effects if used on track days along with a good coolant system on the air intake.
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Last bump up before i stop trying

Thanks
Old 11 April 2005, 10:16 AM
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How long would each "fill" of liquid CO2 last ? Might be OK for a hillclimb/sprint/rolling road run, but for a long journey it would probably reach normal temperature within a few miles.

Can't image there are many places open on a Sunday morning that sell liquid CO2
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personally I think it is overkill in this country, and in most others.

fuel constitutes a small portion by volume of the charge netering the cylinder. You would be far better of making the charge as cool as possible by intercooling more efficiently.

Not only that but if the fuel speicifically is cold, you reduce atomisation massively which reduces burn efficiency.

I recally being told that the optimum temp for fuel atomisation was actually 40 degrees C.

I would be inclined to stick with decent intercooling and if considering adding a coolign product then go with water spray or better yet water injection.
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