GBruce

Hi,

I was thinking about getting myself a wideband lambda sensor and display, maybe one of the digital displays and having it in the car to see whats going on. Have you got one and if so how much and what's it like?

In the end I would like to try mapping myself and would like to use it for this.
Where would it be best, In collector of gruppe-s headers or downpipe of aps exhaust, not where normal one is it's lower down, just before centre pipe joint.

Thanks

George

dr_jones

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I recently purchased an innovate motorsports LM-1:

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products.php

VERY pleased with it and seems very good VFM. Can be hooked up to an analogue display also or dash mounter (though not too stylsh looking still better than knocklink..

They's also soon releasing a didigtal item which may be more what yer after if you just want to display...

malinen

AEM Gauge-Type Wideband UEGO Controller

http://www.aempower.com/product_ems.asp

It's is VERY good and accurate, I had it on my WRX MY04

AndrewC

George,

Most of the self mappers on here and 22B use the TechEdge WB (www.wbo2.com), when purchased in kit form is exceptional value for money.

If you are interested let me know as I get discount (I've just imported 6 v2 kits for 22B members with good savings on shipping as well as my discount).

I can also help with building if you need

As for location, in the downpipe is best as the extra heat in the headers will shorten the life of the sensor (although the Bosch LSU4 is cheaper than the OEM narrowband).

Andrew...

GBruce

Hi,

Thanks for the replys, had a look at all of them.

What sort of price is a pre-built 2A0 unit
Bosch sensor
LD01 display
All required cables

I was planning to have it in the car and leave it there using it as a more accurate lambda link type thing and possibly in future try mapping myself.
This looks like it would do the job nicely.

How much can be saved by building it myself? it does look a bit complicated, not tried anything like that before.

Thanks

George

dowser

TechEdge if you only require a display, Innovate item if you want to hook it into EcuTek products. Note that with the Innovate you will need to insulate the sensor from too much heat in high boost applications (or move it further down the D/P).

Richard

GBruce

Thanks,

I think it is going to be the Tech edge kit, Just want it to display. Not using ECUtek its on a Gems as it's MY98.

Cheers

George

Jolly Green Monster

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you would do better to get Andrew to order it and build it for you for a fee assuming he is willing as this would be cheaper than the prebuilt..

It depends on current exchange rate but I think around £250 would see it all in and ready to fit in the car maybe less.. but you would need to talk to Andrew on the current prices and stuff.. mine has been in the car nearly a year with the VW sensor and touch wood is working very well indeed a credit to Andrews soldering skills.

Simon

Andy.F

The innovate unit is cheaper than the techedge one, I don't have a preference (got both )

Andy

Jolly Green Monster

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Is that including a reasonable display??

the LD01 is not exactly beautiful but that volt meter style thing doesn;t do it for me either..

perhaps my pricing is out of have innovative dropped there prices?? I know it was more when I sorted mine a year ago.

Andy.F

Approx £200 but thats with the display in the handheld box so not the sort of thing you would mount on the dash
There is a 52mm dial about to be released for it.

Andy

AndrewC

The innovate unit isn't the same as the TE 2A0/2B0 units which have RPM and Aux input functions built in, the equivalent Innovate unit is over £300 before postage and duty.

If you want a fully built AFR only unit then with the exchange rates as they stand the Innovate is cheaper. Interested to know why it can be used with ECUTek where the TE can't?

George, drop me an email if you need any help.

Andrew...

Andy.F

EcuTec supports the linear 5v output of the Innovate, the TE unit requires a univariate polynomial (or at least my one does) I use the TE for Apexi tuning and the Innovate for both Apexi and EcuTec.

Andy

AndrewC

I see now.

The V2 TE does have a 5V linear output as well as a simulated version of the older V1.0/1.5 polynomial output.

The LM1 is a much more user friendly product though...

ronin_hungary

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LM1 is easier to fit, plus you do not need a signal converter, most other units need one, which almost cost as much as the unit itself, + all the hustle... LM-1 is more Subaru compatible...

dowser

I have the v1 TE, hence the move to Innovate. Good product, but it really needs a display that can be mounted at eye level, TE can be blu-tac'ed anywhere

AndrewC

Can you explain the converter thing?

Andrew...

harbering1

www.zeitronix.com
i have this one

SoNiCa

so I was going to ask this.. How is zeitronix? I was about to order zeitronix or innovate. I get a price quote from both but innovate is too big not includes a rpm converter. When you add rpm, it gets the same price almost

dowser

EcuTek products have a software interface built into them for Innovate - means you just plug it in to your laptop and away you go.

Richard

GBruce

Thanks for the input everyone, I think its going to have to wait untill the new year now.

Andrew, Thanks for the offer of help. Will probably be in contact in the new year when my bank balance recovers :-)

Thanks

George