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Old 18 October 2004, 07:23 PM
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Default Fuel pump problems

I have an intermittent fault with my fuel pump.

There is a 12v feed to the multiplug at the pump, which lasts a couple of seconds when the ignition is switched on, then drops. The earth has continuity to the chassis.

When plugged on, the pump doesn't work. Reasonable to assume it's the pump.

HOWEVER, when I put a 12v feed direct from a battery pack to the pump, it works.

I cleaned the terminals up, then removed the cables from the multiplug and attached them direct to the pump. No joy.

Any ideas? Maybe not enough current? What readings should I be getting? Any help resolving this would be great.

Thanks in advance.
Old 18 October 2004, 07:50 PM
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I'm not an expert on this but I believe that the fuel pump will run/only get power for a couple of seconds with just the ingnition on. It will run constantly when the engine is running. A fuel pressure sensor will stop the pump if no fuel is being used ie when the engine is off.

Hope this helps.
Someone else may provide a better / more technical explanation.

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Old 18 October 2004, 08:17 PM
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Cheers mate, that's what I figured, which is why I'm confused as to why the pump isn't pumping if there's power to it from the multiplug, yet it works when power is applied from an external source???
Old 18 October 2004, 08:31 PM
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It works cos your bypassing the fuel pump relay. Don't ask me where it is, I'm trying to find it myself.
Old 18 October 2004, 10:09 PM
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But there is power at the plug...
Old 18 October 2004, 10:18 PM
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The pump primes then turns off, only restarting when the engine fires up. There is an explination on here somewhere. I'll see if I can find it tomorrow.
Old 18 October 2004, 10:19 PM
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Okay, I'll stay up all night trying to figure it out
Old 18 October 2004, 11:22 PM
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The pump is switched to ground, there will always be a power feed, its the return thats switched. the ecu runs for a couple secs on switch on then stops, when you crank and she fires the ecu starts it up again.

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There doesn't appear to be a power feed all the time, just when the ign is switched on, and gives 12V for a few seconds. Is that normal?
Old 18 October 2004, 11:25 PM
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And do you know what the fault is?

Typical for it to go now, just as it has been put up for sale. It knows, you know
Old 19 October 2004, 06:19 PM
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Still need a hand if anyone can shed some light

They don't sell too well when immobile

Thanks!
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just take the 12v from your rear license plate lightning.
Fuelpump starts with ign on and goes out when turned of.

Only ****ty part is that you have to keep your lights always on
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I'm now in the same boat, as you now mitch. I've just changed my pump and now I'm only getting 1.3v to it.
Old 19 October 2004, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by David MY99
just take the 12v from your rear license plate lightning.
Fuelpump starts with ign on and goes out when turned of.

Only ****ty part is that you have to keep your lights always on
Well, I could just run an ignition feed to it if that wouldn't hurt, but would rather find the fault and fix it properly. Would be another anti theft device though, cos lights would have to be on before starting
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