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Old 03 July 2004, 01:53 AM
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whats the best way to reduce charge temps on a TMIC, to get max powerdone all the usual ones , so has anyone any new ideas to get my intercooler cool.
Old 03 July 2004, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
whats the best way to reduce charge temps on a TMIC, to get max powerdone all the usual ones , so has anyone any new ideas to get my intercooler cool.
Fit a kit that sprays liquid nitrogen on to it dannyboyturbo has this on his tmic and rekons it is ace.
Old 03 July 2004, 03:09 PM
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I made a chargecooler on a Renault 5 Turbo from a 2wd cosworth intercooler by fabbing an ally tank around the cooler part, with water inlet & outlet, had it tig welded up, looked ace. Then fitted it with a motorbike rad & small inline 12v boat pump on interval timer. It worked brilliantly! So well I was running silly boost, no detting & broke 2 gearboxes & 3 driveshafts!

I havn't seen anything like it yet on a scoob, only front mounts & I don't like the length of piping involved with those, so the chargecooler had crossed my mind but I'm still doing basic mods since I've only just got my first scoob.

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Lag the turbo, as the heat from it rises straight into the i/c....bigger bonnet scoop.....tilt the i/c......straighten all bent fins, including underneath, and while the i/c is off, run a hose through the fins from behind....you'll be surprised how much crap comes out.....if all that isn't enough, fit some PC cooling fans underneath the i/c, to draw cold air through it.
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Originally Posted by micared
Lag the turbo, as the heat from it rises straight into the i/c....bigger bonnet scoop.....tilt the i/c......straighten all bent fins, including underneath, and while the i/c is off, run a hose through the fins from behind....you'll be surprised how much crap comes out.....if all that isn't enough, fit some PC cooling fans underneath the i/c, to draw cold air through it.

done all that apart from the pc cooling fans, and my intercooler is brand new so no damage what so ever, not even a slight bend in 1 fin
Old 04 July 2004, 02:36 AM
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Duct the exit from the i/c (though I dunno how to).
Fit a bigger scoop - though I hate that idea.
Duct air from the foglight area through to the i/c (though I've not seen it done).
Duct air to the the airbox from behind the rhs cheese wedge or spotlight (not if you like driving in water though).

J.
Old 04 July 2004, 03:29 PM
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Here's some nutter a few years ago with a home made charge cooler kit



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http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=92555
Old 04 July 2004, 03:36 PM
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ive tried to buy a bigger bonnet scoop twice from ETS and they keep fooking me off

steve, you got a IC splitter fitted?
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
ive tried to buy a bigger bonnet scoop twice from ETS and they keep fooking me off

steve, you got a IC splitter fitted?

intercooler splitter and an sti8 scoop from ETS RACING car is peaking at 1.8 bar now
Old 04 July 2004, 06:47 PM
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Steve, I also have the bigger scoop from ETS, but I am NOT running a splitter. Is it really worthwhile fitting one, and where would I get hold of one??

Cheers
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Originally Posted by PICKLE
Steve, I also have the bigger scoop from ETS, but I am NOT running a splitter. Is it really worthwhile fitting one, and where would I get hold of one??

Cheers

you could be in luck as im going to give mine to ets racing shortly to copy so if you give it a bit time you will be able to buy from them
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So yours is basically a home-made jobby done by yourself right? Any dimensions/drawing you could mail me as then I could do the same? Got the ability/materials to do it, but can't really be arsed to do it from scratch, so some measurements would be easier!!
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Originally Posted by PICKLE
So yours is basically a home-made jobby done by yourself right? Any dimensions/drawing you could mail me as then I could do the same? Got the ability/materials to do it, but can't really be arsed to do it from scratch, so some measurements would be easier!!

no mines a proper shinny bought one,got it on ebay with the rad splitter for £80 but they know people who can copy these and have asked if they can use mine, but i want to get my car mapped before i lend it out
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Andy,
Top stuff with the chargecooler, exactly as I'd imagined it ! Do you still use it, what was the end result so to speak?

Neil
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Originally Posted by stevebt
whats the best way to reduce charge temps on a TMIC, to get max powerdone all the usual ones , so has anyone any new ideas to get my intercooler cool.
Why not fit a chargecooler matrix atop I/C comprising of an aircon evaporater linked into aircon circuit + cooling helix around fuel suppy + drawing fans - all temp controlled - face it aircon will be running anyway if you are on a charge (pun intended!)
Old 05 July 2004, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Xbox
Top stuff with the chargecooler, exactly as I'd imagined it ! Do you still use it, what was the end result so to speak?
The charge cooler is in my car now. Ian who had it before me was running 1.8 bar IIRC and over 400bhp. The water gets only a couple of degrees warmer than ambient with my lowish 1.3 bar boost. I must say I'm very happy with it.

Here's a pic of the whole setup.

Old 05 July 2004, 11:40 AM
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Zero-sports do an i/c splitter

David hendry cars in Malmesbury supplied mine

(2003 STI)
Old 05 July 2004, 02:45 PM
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Pete, thanks! Glad to see it's still doing it's job, and effectively as well.
Looks like I'll be using my ally bending skills again in future.
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Here's some nutter a few years ago with a home made charge cooler kit



Full story here

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=92555
nice thread .....

Andy at the end what aprox total volume of water were u using ? ..... still tempted to try this now that i have a spare TMIC (I still use the stock TMIC when drag racing ).

Probably for a 370bhp application this might be just enough, and will keep the quick throttle response .

Carlos H.
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would be nice to have a charge cooler fitted but i have no technical knowledge to make one, if there was a kit to buy from somewhere that would be great was looking at a spraybar kit which sprays water onto the intercooler when the intercooler reaches a certain temp, has anyone ever tried one of these or know anything about them
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Carlos, I believe the total volume is close to 10 liters. Haven't measured it though.

Andy, you have a PM on 22b.
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As Pete mentioned, with the rad in place approx 10 ltrs.
For drag racing I would fit a bigger swirl pot and fill it with ice prior to each run.

My new car is running a custom TMIC with twin 9" fans, should be good for 500bhp and sharp throttle response. Initial AP22 results are very promising

Andy
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"custom TMIC" ?????

thought you were going to use a stock TMIC.

Carlos H.
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I'm currently using an Sti7/8 intercooler but will soon have a pile of bits to make a twin core tmic

Andy
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how are the fans placed on the intercooler
Old 06 July 2004, 03:43 AM
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stevebt, you could always pick up a legacy turbo chargecooler from a wreckers yard?
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I used to have a Legacy charge cooler. I gained about 20 bhp using the same boost pressure with Andy's kit. Here are a few pics that show how much smaller the Legacy version is.



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Very nice bit of kit that!!

I've heard that TSL are developing a charge cooler kit...
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tsl had one fitted to one of there demo cars at the NBO.
it looked a nice peice of kit.
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When I was up there earlier in the year they mentioned that they were developing a charge cooler kit.


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