Clutch Life
05 March 2004, 05:28 PM
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Clutch Life
My UKMY98 is up to 82.5k miles now on the original cluth. It isnt playing up, and I am not trying to will it to bust, but I was just wondering how much longer I could expect it to last? Tend to do mostly town driving and some hardish lauches out on the backroads.
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05 March 2004, 05:43 PM
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Don't complain Molds, that's good going. If you've got a good gearchange technique and don't spend all your days launching from a standstill, there's no reason why it shouldn't last a good old while.
You're well above "average" lifespan now, so difficult to say how much more you can expect. Either way, when it does eventually start to slip, you can be happy it's had a darn good innings!
You're well above "average" lifespan now, so difficult to say how much more you can expect. Either way, when it does eventually start to slip, you can be happy it's had a darn good innings!
05 March 2004, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Molds
My UKMY98 is up to 82.5k miles now on the original cluth. It isnt playing up, and I am not trying to will it to bust, but I was just wondering how much longer I could expect it to last? Tend to do mostly town driving and some hardish lauches out on the backroads.
Ta M
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I have known VW clutches to last 140,000 miles without replacement...But these clutches are exceptional..(German again)
Well done....Kev.
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05 March 2004, 08:01 PM
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Hehe, nice one Molds 
Mine is on 84K miles now, including TOTB, Scooby ShootOut, Scoobs Vs Cossies & quite a few trackdays in addition to normal abuse
When the MAF killed the engine @ 77K miles, I thought it'd be a good idea to get the clutch changed but Pete reckoned that it had worn less than 1/3
So I left it in & saved the money
Let's see whose 1st to 100K ?
Mine is on 84K miles now, including TOTB, Scooby ShootOut, Scoobs Vs Cossies & quite a few trackdays in addition to normal abuse
When the MAF killed the engine @ 77K miles, I thought it'd be a good idea to get the clutch changed but Pete reckoned that it had worn less than 1/3
So I left it in & saved the money Let's see whose 1st to 100K ?
06 March 2004, 06:54 PM
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Clutch wear
We recently rebuilt an engine in a Forester for Matt Rus at 143,000 miles; he asked for a clutch to be fitted.
BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT ! [ as they say] the clutch was like new, he hadn't had it replaced before and unless he was testing us to see if we'd rip him off and fit one he didn't need, which I doubt, seemed genuinely pleased that it was OK.
Is that a benchmark now ? 143,000 miles
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BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT ! [ as they say] the clutch was like new, he hadn't had it replaced before and unless he was testing us to see if we'd rip him off and fit one he didn't need, which I doubt, seemed genuinely pleased that it was OK.
Is that a benchmark now ? 143,000 miles
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07 March 2004, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterStone
Apart from slipping are there any other signs that the clutch is on the way out?
PeteS
MY99 @ 67100mls
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MY99 @ 67100mls
And NO, GM, Matt's clutch was behaving perfectly - probably worth selling it back to IM it's maybe the only one in the Uk doing so .......!
David API
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07 March 2004, 08:29 PM
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Blimey! 82K! I was about to post the same question, as mine has started to slip now, except I've only reached 64K, and I've been double-declutching since about 45K.
Reassured to find I'm on the good side of average - an unusual thing for my car!
Question is, what to replace it with? Std My98 jobby, or Borg'n'Beck, or Organic? (Std UK car)
Reassured to find I'm on the good side of average - an unusual thing for my car!
Question is, what to replace it with? Std My98 jobby, or Borg'n'Beck, or Organic? (Std UK car)
08 March 2004, 11:53 AM
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I changed mine at 124,000miles.. believe it to be the original.. receipt for everything but with the car when I bought it at 76,000miles.. and was worn to the rivets..
MY96 UK Turbo and replaced with a Borg and Beck now done 21,000miles on that.. lol
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MY96 UK Turbo
and replaced with a Borg and Beck now done 21,000miles on that.. lolJGM
08 March 2004, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
I changed mine at 124,000miles.. believe it to be the original.. receipt for everything but with the car when I bought it at 76,000miles.. and was worn to the rivets..
MY96 UK Turbo and replaced with a Borg and Beck now done 21,000miles on that.. lol
JGM
MY96 UK Turbo
and replaced with a Borg and Beck now done 21,000miles on that.. lolJGM
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08 March 2004, 12:43 PM
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Mine's on the original and I've done 103K miles.....
Judders like hell for the first mile or so, but its done that for the last 40000 miles !
Mark (98 UK)
Judders like hell for the first mile or so, but its done that for the last 40000 miles !
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08 March 2004, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunk
Only 124k !!!!!! Was it defective or can't you do hill starts ?
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Can never get it spot on 5000rpm.. always shoots up to 6000rpm before I can get my foot off the clutch.. however quick I try and get my left foot off the clutch.
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08 March 2004, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
I changed mine at 124,000miles........................ and was worn to the rivets..
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LOL David API
08 March 2004, 09:55 PM
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lol
It was worn to the rivets.. not worn away the rivets.. flywheel was still okay and I didn;t skim it.. no judder on new clutch except when I tow something heavy..lol
Mucky mess
Flywheel, some marks but totally flat and no lip
Clutch plate, rust on middle was after removed as it got rained on
and the clutch plate
JGM
It was worn to the rivets.. not worn away the rivets.. flywheel was still okay and I didn;t skim it.. no judder on new clutch except when I tow something heavy..lol
Mucky mess
Flywheel, some marks but totally flat and no lip
Clutch plate, rust on middle was after removed as it got rained on
and the clutch plate
JGM
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09 March 2004, 09:26 AM
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Although it may be stating the obvious, clutch life is also influenced by the driving pattern of the car/driver. A car that spends a good proportion of its life on m'ways and dual carriageways will, generally, have a longer clutch life.
Unfortunately, I spend much of my working life driving up and down m'ways etc - one of the few consolations being not having to replace clutches too often
My present car (JDM Forester S/tb) has covered 134,000 miles on the original clutch (but now won't be long before it needs replacing).
Previously I had a UK Leggy Turbo which when chopped in for the S/tb had covered 196,000 miles on its original clutch!
Unfortunately, I spend much of my working life driving up and down m'ways etc - one of the few consolations being not having to replace clutches too often
My present car (JDM Forester S/tb) has covered 134,000 miles on the original clutch (but now won't be long before it needs replacing).
Previously I had a UK Leggy Turbo which when chopped in for the S/tb had covered 196,000 miles on its original clutch!
09 March 2004, 01:57 PM
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Just revisited this. Wow, a few replies! Would seem I am doing very well with this clutch. I will keep my fingers crossed that it continues to hold its own against those occasional launches in anger
10 March 2004, 08:19 AM
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76k miles on mine
bought the car on 56k miles
not sure if its been replaced before, but its unlikley
ive did about 80 drag runs in the car now
still working fine
bought the car on 56k miles
not sure if its been replaced before, but its unlikley
ive did about 80 drag runs in the car now
still working fine
10 March 2004, 10:41 PM
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Just had mine replaced at 92k (my99 uk turbo), which I thought was good going but for a variety of reasons (not least of which I kind of had 100k in my sights!!) I wish I hadn't. But that's another story 
13 April 2004, 12:20 PM
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I think I may have jinxed myself
Since I started this thread I have done about 450 miles. I've always had the cold start judders but it has now started to do this a bit when hot. Is it all about to go wrong..?
Since I started this thread I have done about 450 miles. I've always had the cold start judders but it has now started to do this a bit when hot. Is it all about to go wrong..?
13 April 2004, 12:41 PM
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Narrr it will let you know when it has had enough.. usually in fifth when you floor it and the speedo doesn't move but the revs increase towards to the redline.. lol
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13 April 2004, 01:47 PM
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Thanks JGM, needed cheering!
Bank account has been hit for all sorts recently plus I am due a service and MOT so didnt want the clutch cost right now!
Strange why its started doing it though...
Bank account has been hit for all sorts recently plus I am due a service and MOT so didnt want the clutch cost right now!
Strange why its started doing it though...
13 April 2004, 02:15 PM
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How I understand it is that the flywheel is spinning and you lift the clutch pedal to engage the clutch and it is engaging on high spots on the flywheel (deposits from the clutch, burn marks etc)
and this causes the judder the clutch then engages as normal.
Sometimes a high rpm launch can burn off the deposits and the judder goes until it builds up again and sometimes not. it is similar situation as with warped brake disks/deposits on them.
Personnally I just used to pull away with a little more revs and thus lift the clutch a bit quicker and then the judder is less noticable.
Since fitting the borg and beck clutch now 22,000miles ago I have only had cold clutch judder the day after doing some towing.. no problems even after a few runs a Evlington drag strip and car is now running around 300bhp.
JGM
and this causes the judder the clutch then engages as normal.
Sometimes a high rpm launch can burn off the deposits and the judder goes until it builds up again and sometimes not. it is similar situation as with warped brake disks/deposits on them.
Personnally I just used to pull away with a little more revs and thus lift the clutch a bit quicker and then the judder is less noticable.
Since fitting the borg and beck clutch now 22,000miles ago I have only had cold clutch judder the day after doing some towing.. no problems even after a few runs a Evlington drag strip and car is now running around 300bhp.
JGM
30 April 2004, 10:19 PM
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Serves me write for speaking up ! 5 K miles later (108000) and mines started to slip ....
Bugger !
Looks like I won't be getting my FMIC just yet after all
Mark
Bugger !
Looks like I won't be getting my FMIC just yet after all
Mark