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Old 03 July 2001, 12:12 AM
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I've got a MY00 and thinking of changing the BB. I fancied the Prodrive WR unit as it's a little quiter than the SS. However, I've just been told by the dealer that they can fit the P1 BB.

Anyone care to comment on the differences?

Old 03 July 2001, 12:47 AM
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Ths standard P1 backbox is just an STI item. Not very loud, and quite restrictive from what I've been told.

It depends why you are after a backbox; noise, performance, looks, etc.

The P1/STI backbox should be cheaper as I've seen them change hands for less that £50!

As I say it depends what you are after!

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Old 03 July 2001, 12:52 AM
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Old 03 July 2001, 01:06 PM
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I really wanted a new BB for an increase in the noise level. I didn't want the noise to go through the roof, just a bit more RB5 like. A circular pipe would be an added benefit!

I was under the impression that the standard P1 BB was from STi. I thought the P1 BB (with the embossed P1) was from the P1 WR range.
Old 03 July 2001, 01:18 PM
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Sounds like the Scorpion one is exactly what you want then - increased noise (but not as loud as some Jap pipes or the SS one) and a nice round tailpipe too.

When I said it is the same as the Prodrive one I meant the one that Prodrive fit as part of there performance pack (ie the round one) that is not available on its own. - This is the one the Prodrive RB5's got.

I'm not sure if the Prodrive that is available on its own (ie the one with the oval tailpipe) is essentially the same thing but with a tailpipe or not. Or indeed what the noise levels of this one are.

Plus the decat centre section will give you a bit more oomph as well.
Old 03 July 2001, 02:58 PM
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There are 2 P1 back boxes available. The standard one should be cheap, it is the STI item as detailed above.
Also available is the louder and less restrictive P1 WR prodrive backbox, this one is probably what you are after, it is a P1 WR option and different from the STI one.

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Old 03 July 2001, 03:54 PM
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Andy W, I've got the backbox u r talking about (with P1 embossed on it) fitted to my my00 and i'm v.happy with it. Not quite as loud or boomy as the scoobysport item at lower revs but great when u press the fast pedal.

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Old 03 July 2001, 04:19 PM
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What's the P1 BB like on the motorway? I used to have an Integra-R which sounded awesome on the back roads but was a pain in the **** on long motorway journeys...

How did having the P1 BB affect your insurance?
Old 03 July 2001, 07:32 PM
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i have just ordered the P1 backbox today from my local dealer fitting it for me in 2 weeks for £325 inc vat will it be a WR system ? or a sti one? i rang several dealers and they all qoute the same price at £350 also they do a ECU upgrade at £450 which will not affect warrenty and give an extra 40 BHP what do you think of this ADVICE PLEASE ?????????????????????
Old 03 July 2001, 11:37 PM
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What is the ECU (and model of car?), surely only the Prodrive one doesn't effect engine warranty? If it is the prodrive ecu then perfect and a bargin, if not try calling International Motors and asking whether it affects warranty.

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Old 04 July 2001, 10:43 AM
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Andy, P1 BB is fine on the motorway, hardly notice it.

lordharding, I'd be interestested in further details on the chip if u have any?
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Old 04 July 2001, 11:03 AM
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Anyone got the P1 original BB fitted to a normal turbo?

Any idea how it would affect my warranty should I fit one?

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Old 04 July 2001, 11:24 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by lordharding:
<B>i rang several dealers and they all qoute the same price at £350 also they do a ECU upgrade at £450 which will not affect warrenty and give an extra 40 BHP what do you think of this ADVICE PLEASE?[/quote]

Be careful, a friend of mine went to a dealer in the North, who gave the same claims and the costs were the same. It turned out to be a Superchip

A Superchip will invalidate your warranty!

Might be worth giving them another call and see if they mention Prodrive, if they don't avoid it.

Also if you paid £350 for the backbox, it's probably the proper one at that money, but check for the embossed P1!

Hope this helps
Andy

Old 04 July 2001, 03:43 PM
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The WR BB will have the words Prodrive engraved in the tailpipe, but they are quite expensive but are suppose to give you around 8bhp more and do sound good

Tony
Old 04 July 2001, 08:01 PM
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mine is a 2000my the upgrade is a remapped engine management syystem with 30+bhp it is done by an ex prodrive guy who does the work the dealer has put many in over the last few years and it wont affect warrenty as basically if they had problems they would not be offering it i know of guy same modle as mine who loves it has anyone else had any experience of it?
Old 04 July 2001, 11:48 PM
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Lord harding

Yea that guy did my old sport special, combined with a ss bb it made a big difference, lot more torquey.

Anyways it was that quick i wrote it off doin 80 backwards round a corner.

Paul
Old 05 July 2001, 08:13 PM
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i have a turbo, so will it do 90 in reverse?? :P


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