chiark

Hi folks

If, like me, you want an induction kit for your MY99 or MY00 Impreza Turbo but have been put off by the MAF failure stories, I think there's a solution.

Paul McLoughlin, who runs Mac's Power in Eire, has been selling a kit based on a custom K&N element with an STI trumpet for quite a while now with a guarantee that if your MAF fails, he'll replace it (MY99/MY00 EU spec only - 12 month MAF guarantee)

The kits are more expensive than the K&N stuff as the STI trumpet is apparently not cheap, but with no failures and a guarantee it sounds good to me.

Moreover, I've been speaking with Paul, and if we can get a group buy together, we'll be in for some good discounts as he can buy the parts in bulk.

Normal price (in Irish Punts) = 295
10 - 20 price = 270
20+ price = 240

That's about 180 quid if we can get 20 or more and 200 quid for 10 - 20. Only thing to add is delivery.

Could you please post here if interested and we can take it forward from there.

PS - Paul has researched this a lot, and has drawn his own conclusions as to why MAFs fail, plus his own solution. He stands by this and guarantees your MAF for a year putting his money where his mouth is!

Regards,

Nick.

GraemeC

Is there a web site where we can view what we'd be buying?

I am possibly interested though.

chiark

I've just asked Paul for a picture and will post ASAP. It's a custom-made K&N element (cone shaped) with the STI trumpet. Will post ASAP.

Karlos

Does anyone have this induction kit already fitted at all?

I've never heard of this. How does it compare to a standard K&N, and, if anyone knows, is it worth waiting for the Next Gen K&N?

Karlos

chiark

They're popular in Eire

Regarding next generation K&N: no-one knows. Will this solve the MAF failure problem, and will it guarantee to?

Chris J

On the off chance that the MAF does fail, how would you go about getting it replaced? ie do you have to take it to him to do, or do you get it done and invoice him later?

Just thought I'd ask

Cheers

Chris

Karlos

Hmmmm,

Thanks for setting up the offer Chiark but I think I'll go for another Blitz on my new car. I've heard to many people talk about MAF failure for my liking!

Karlos

chiark

And blitz guarantee it in what way???

There's people who've had MAFs fail with blitz, and out of 100 sold, none have had any problems!

Blitz is a dry mesh filter isn't it?

chiark

In answer to what happens if one fails, Paul would post one out to you free of charge. It would be up to you to fit it, or get it fitted.

No-one else, to my knowledge, is this confident in their product.

I honestly think that this is a great product for those, like me, who won't risk their MAF for the sake of performance.

Stef

We've been here before, but I've yet to hear of a car running a normal K&N 57i kit (£70) that's suffered from MAF failure. At the end of the day both kits are using a K&N cone, and I can't see how a different trumpet helps the MAF??? The problem apparently came from the vibration of the cones from poor fixings.
I'd certainly wait for the Gen II myself, looks fappin awesome with that box to keep the hot air out.

Stef.

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Doogsy

Any info on when the Gen II K&n will be available?
I have the standard on at the moment fitted as soon as it was available forMY99 no probs at all. That's 11 months now.
Awesome sound and definitely better response.

mutant_matt

Paul, any possibility that you could post some pictures so we can have a look???

Ta,

Matt

Mac's Power

Hi folks,
Paul McLoughlin from Mac's Power Motorsport in Ireland. Many thanks to Chiark for contacting me about this group buy. I hope I can answer your questions. I have discounted these kits by as much as possible and still plan to keep our guarantee in place.

The Kit is very different to the 57i kit. We sell both systems. I have still to sell a 57i over our own system. The trumpet is STI and the cone is custom made by K&N. It has almost twice as big of a surface area as the standard K&N kit.They do not sell this part or list it in their catalogue.

Anyway as has been pointed out we've been through all this before. It's as simple as this. If your maf sensor blows due to fitting our system we will replace it FOC. I am not in any way knocking any one else's induction kits but we will stand by ours.

As to who has them fitted? We are not an internet based company but a Subaru specialist dealing directly to the public and to the motor trade. I'm not sure how many scoobynetters have this system but we have sold 90 to date and have had no problems. If any of you have bought the system and I know some of you have then please feel free to post your opinions. Also if anyone has any questions regarding this kit please feel free to ask. I'll try to get back ASAP but things are busy at the moment.

I hope this group buy works out, but if not no harm done and I look forward to having many of you as customers in the future. You can be assured that we will keep developing and testing Subaru Products like this one and more. Remember we stand by everything we sell.

Regards,

Paul.
Mac's Power Motorsport
086 8797512
UK 00353 86 8797512


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Scruff

I don't have one of Pauls kits fitted(MY98) but I would have no hesitation recommending Macs Power to anyone. I have had some minor mods done to my wagon over the last few months and Paul didn't know me from Adam. He gives me his MY00 highly modified wagon for the day (worth nearly £30,000 in Ireland) while he worked on my car. All I can say is if you can't trust this guy you can trust no one.

Cheers

Alan

P.S. he is fitting a new downpipe to my car next week and I am worried it will be too loud, he is fitting it on to the car and doesn't want any money for a month and by then if it is too loud he will take it back. Can't be fairer than that.

Mac's Power

Ok I have the pics. How do I post them?

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Doogsy

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You need to go here

James Auckland

I've had a K&N 57i kit installed on my my99 for the last 6 months and have had no problems with it. What and how can it affect the MAF, are there any tell tale signs. How much are the MAF's if it should blow?

James

chiark

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James Auckland

Looks similar to the one Graham Goode's sell? Is it?

chiark

Apart from the fact that the donut thingy is an STI part on this, they are similar apparently. GGR is about 150+VAT+delivery with no guarantee...

I am starting to think that this is like flogging a dead horse. Perhaps I'm alone in wanting a guaranteed MAF, or the talk of failures is over-hyped.

Stef

Paul.
Please don't think I'm not saying your kit isn't a good one, I'm not at all. It's just that I am a big fan of K&N and had a simialr discussion with GGR when they tried to sell me their kit (almost identical to yours, 'bespoke' cone and all) over the standard 57i kit.
When I asked exactly why theirs was so much better (and twice the price!) all they could say was that the cone was bespoke!
You are selling this kit using the MAF guarantee as a feature, which is fair enough when comparing to PX or Blitz, but not so relavant against the 57i seeing as this doesn't seem to be causing any MAF problems anyway.
The cone doesn't appear to have twice the surface area of my 57i cone either. Anyway, I asked GGR so I'll ask you. What benefits does your kit have over the standard 57i kit (apart from a pink trumpet!).

Stef.

Mac's Power

Hi Stef,
I am delighted you asked the questions. I have no personal experience with maf failures using the standard 57i kit, but I have heard some reports but not verified. My experience of maf failures is mainly with "other" induction kits which I'll refrain from mentioning The GGR kit does seem similar and this is a bone of contention but I won't get into that right now or my fingers will be typed to the bone

We sell both the 57i kit and our own system. If you sit one beside the other you will see the difference in the area of the cones. Our kit is much bigger. It is a custom made cone and is not available from K&N.

I have had a 57i kit on my car and I thought is was quite good but when I fitted this system there was definately much more airflow and throtle response. The 57i kit does not have a trumpet to smooth the air flow so therefore it is possible to have maf failures due to turbulance.

It's as simple as this...you get what you pay for. For the price the 57i kit is probably as good as you can buy........for the price our kit is the best you can buy...plus you get a maf sensor guarantee..that's how confident we are.

When someone comes in to buy an induction kit I always show then both kits and I have never yet sold a standard kit over the custom kit. And as for profit it is about the same on both kits so I'm not "pushing" our kit because of the profits but because I know it is the best. We have done extensive research into the maf failures and believe that the problem is due to 3 things..turbulance...filtration...and vibration. Our kit solves all these.

I believed from all the "hype" that there were a lot of maf failures in the UK. I know we had quite a few here in Ireland. So we saw a market for a proven system and that's what we sell.

I hope this has answered some of your questions regarding our system. If anyone has any more I would only be too glad to answer them in a public forum or privately.

Regards,
Paul McLoughlin
Mac's Power Motorsport
086 8797512