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Old Nov 5, 2000 | 12:53 AM
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hi,

Has anyone got any concrete evidence of
the difference that an induction kit makes
performance wise, preferably a Blitz.

I've heard claims of 8Bhp is this true?!

Basically the reason I ask is that I have
had one fitted and am not sure of the difference...yeh the car is louder, throttle
seems a little perkier but the torque seems
to have vanished. I understand that this
may be due to the car running lean.

Have any of you guys experienced this lack
of torque? I disconnected the battery for
an hour or so in the hope of an ECU reset
taking place. The car does appear a little
better but I'm still not 100% happy.

This is driving me nuts...the standard
air box might go back on.

comments?
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Old Nov 6, 2000 | 01:06 PM
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Matt.
What year is your car?
Blitz kits have been causing problems with the MAF sennsors on MY99's-on.
I've had no probs with my K&N kit, and my car shows the highest gains on the rollers of any UK car with a standard ecu.

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Old Nov 6, 2000 | 01:08 PM
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hi,

it is an MY94 WRX...

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Old Nov 6, 2000 | 02:04 PM
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A run on the rollers will help see if it's running lean anyway, so it may be a good excuse to go to PS.

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Old Nov 6, 2000 | 04:57 PM
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8bhp sounds a 'little' optimistic

I would not suspect there to be a large difference between

Blitz/HKS/K&N or Pipercross. I have had all on current and previous cars - the power gains are always spurious - and swapping and doing numerous runs would be expensive and potentially meaningless due to non-fixed parameters effecting the rollers

HKS looks the nicest but is very expensive
Blitz sounds the nicest on a Scoob, as I'[ve had the Blitz and the HKS - HKS is quieter
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Old Nov 6, 2000 | 07:48 PM
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thanks for all the info guys. The standard box went back on yesterday. The car *definately* has more grunt and torque, plus I can hear the turbo spin up rather than the hurricane under the bonnet :O)

I suspect the car may have been running lean, even if it didn't I think the noise
would have got on my nerves after a bit...perhaps...although it was yummy
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Old Nov 7, 2000 | 04:26 AM
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Lets get one thing clear,

ANY INDUCTION KIT FITTED INCORRECTLY COULD POSSIBLY CAUSE A MAF FAILURE, K&N, Pipercross, Blitz, HKS whatever...........

The failure isnt down to the Blitz filter itself, but more like the incorrect installation...........

Why oh why.............
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Old Nov 7, 2000 | 07:44 AM
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sunil,

I have heard the horror stories and made absolutely sure that the maf/air filter wasn't going anywhere. I couldn't move
the thing!

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Old Nov 7, 2000 | 12:19 PM
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hi matt

breathing modes make the car go lean ie air filters , exhaust etc the power band for the the subaru engine seem to be between 6-8%co above that you loose power below that you also loose power and risk detonation. so what if you car was running lean 6% co to start with ? just a thought. air filter may make more of a difference if the car is running rich than lean? i think.
next time you are at a rollers check the CO

again i could be talking rubbish again

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Old Nov 7, 2000 | 12:24 PM
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thanks for the info. I've haven't been on the rollers yet! Just out of interest how is
the co adjusted?

Oh, with the standard box the car pulls
like a train, does the suggestion that it
may be running lean mean it'll go even
quicker ;o)
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Old Nov 8, 2000 | 06:42 PM
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My last Scooby was an MY98 on an R plate. I had a Mongoose full system and a Pipercross Cone filter. When I took it to Well Lane to have it chipped they did a power run and it came out at 237bhp - Superchip took it to 278bhp.
I had no problems with the car at all and it was still pulling you into the seat at 130mph.

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Old Nov 8, 2000 | 07:51 PM
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did you have the car before the pipercross
and exhaust, i.e. so you could see/feel the
differences each mod made?

adding my magnex certainly made a difference
and the blitz did too, but not what I expected. Basically it lost a ton of torque
low down but pulled a bit harder further up
the rev range...but only a bit.

What sort of difference did the pipercross
make and is it noisy? the blitz is *really*
noisy!

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