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Old 01 December 1999, 12:03 AM
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I'm gonna preten I'm HIM.
Think you may have to bend the bracket. I had one put on an STi V and the abs? lines got in the way, so the bracket wouldn't sit properly underneath.
We used the Legacy one.
Hope that helps.
Old 01 December 1999, 12:26 AM
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I ended up drilling the Impreza bracket (The right angle blitz bracket, not my poor scooby!) to extend the hole just enough to use the oversized bolt.
I must say that the HKS kit has better quality

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Old 01 December 1999, 12:27 AM
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Craig H,

You missed the lol bits! lol

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Old 01 December 1999, 11:51 AM
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Received my Blitz induction kit today from PE, had a look at the instructions and all looks OK, however, I have one question.

The fitting kit comes with two brackets to hold the thing in place, for the Impreza it says use the right angle bracket. The problem I have noticed is that the M8 bolt supplied to fix this to the chasis does not go through the hole in the right angle bracket, but does go through the hole in the bracket used for the Legacy (this bracket has two bends in it). Have I missed something here?

I have not looked under the bonnett yet cause I'm at work, is there already a bolt in place that I use with the right angle fixing bracket?

Thanks for your words of wisdom.

Dave
Old 01 December 1999, 01:21 PM
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Hi Dave..

I see you are discovering the world of aftermarket induction kits... lol

To this day, I have never found one that fits perfectly...

The companies invest a fortune in the filter element design...but only about 5 quid in the brackets.. I think a YTS lad makes them for his training... lol

I use two brakets.. one that goes down to the bolt by the ABS lines..... and another bracket that bolts onto the inner wing.

Have you guys found that the filter presses against the wheel arch ? Mine did until I made up the second bracket... now its fully floating

Dave.... If ya near Derby... let me know...we can meet up and have alook/I have virtually every size of Stainless M series bolt you can get... I sure I will have one to fit.. lol

J.

ps - I didnt like the supplied brackets... they go rusty.. *only plated*
Old 01 December 1999, 03:14 PM
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Cheers Guys,

Looks like I will be drilling, bending and Painting (to prevent the rust) this weekend.

Anyone recommend any good paints for such a job? Silver Hammerite I s'pose?

Cheers,

Dave
Old 02 December 1999, 08:40 AM
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firefox ( why did you choose this name? )

Just how rusty do these brackets get? I'm considering a rubber boot on each end of the bracket to prevent the rust.


Also, The black plastic thing that channels air into the side wing and back out again (is this the resonator box?), I trust this stays in place. If I understand correctly what I've been told, this plastic thing channels the cold air arriving from under the bonnett into the side wing and then back out again through the pipe that feeds the air box, or in our case, exits the side wing back into the engine bay next to the cone filter.

I see GGR do a replacement for this, but directs air directly onto the cone filter (missing out the thing in the wing), is there any advantage to this? what about water finding it's way onto the cone?

Cheers

Dave

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Old 02 December 1999, 09:04 AM
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Dave,
Let it stay in place - you don't need it but theres a sensor that plugs in - just keeps it tidy!
Old 02 December 1999, 10:10 AM
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Howdy..

I have no idea why I use "Firefox"... its a name/password I have used for many years... *shrugs*

The brackets will only go rusty where they are scratched.. or where you have bent and cracked the coating.

I'm a perfectionist, hence why I use stainless and aluminium..... that just me..

Dont bother with the rubber boot.. they only tend to collect water..

the rust is very minimal... and only tends to be at the bottom....

you could always try a smear of grease...if you didnt want to paint it (them)

That plastic section consists of two parts.. one that is behind the head light.... this collects the air...and feeds it into the wing. It also has a sensor plugged into it.

The inner wing piece.. is indeed a resonator... its got a large box in the inner wing that stabilisers the air....quietens it down.. and allows any water to run out.

Several companies offer different solutions.... GGR do a product that replaces the plastic behind the headlight (it still takes the sensor I believe), but directs air flow straight onto the filter.

PE do a cold air induction scoop, that replaces the inner wing resonator.. and picks air up from lower down...by the air brake duct...this is expensive..about 350 quid..and made of CF... not cheap.

It has been proven that once the car is moving.. there is very little temp difference between an enclosed filter element and an induction kit.. the only difference in temp occurs when statioanry due to heat soak (and ambient temps rising). But this soon goes once the car is moving again.

Try making a heat shield ? to sepertae the induction kit and engine... but you will still suffer from all the places the air is directed once int he intake.... under the manifold...in the tubro... the top mount I/C... so to be honest.. a few degrees on the air filter intake wont make that much difference by the time it reaches the engine (this is true of road cars, not of race engines).... lol

J.
Old 02 December 1999, 10:13 AM
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And the sensor needs to be in place cos its critical to correct ecu operation.

Bob
Old 02 December 1999, 10:36 AM
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Erm..

So it doesnt work very well on the shelf in my workshop ? lol

*joking*

J.
Old 02 December 1999, 09:15 PM
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Thanks again everyone.

Painted the brackets with sssmmmooootthh Hammerite before I read this post so that's that sorted, I'm sure they will look cool.

Thanks for the info on the resonator, I will be investigating the GGR Aluminium fitting a little more, I think I read somewhere on this BBS that they are a tad expensive, more concerned about the water ingress than anything else though.

I must say that the Blitz cone is truly a work of art, completely sexy, is this the only filter made entirely out of metal. Will it ever need cleaning?

Looking forward to the weekend and that rather nice sucking sound. Can't wait to drive my car iether!


Dave

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Old 03 December 1999, 03:30 PM
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J.

The K&N kit I've got fitted perfectly, bracket, sensor and all!!

Stef.
Old 03 December 1999, 04:38 PM
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Stef..

Your "standard" of fitting and quality, might be below that of mine...

J.
Old 03 December 1999, 11:55 PM
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J.

Maybe so.
My turbo stil works though!

Stef.
Old 04 December 1999, 10:46 AM
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Mine works fine..

Whens the Pod ?

J.

ps - Do you know what and where the turbo is ? pmsl
pss - If not Ask Penni.... see will educate you...*oooer*

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It's that pipe running under the car innit?
Oh, and the Pod's on Feb 20th.

Stef.
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fitted it today.

MAKES ME HORNEY BABY, YEAH !
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Well done StePHy.. lol

Glad you like it David..

J.
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Jay and All,

Once again, thanks for all the help, been driving around quite a bit this weekend 'testing ' the Blitz system. My first impression is that is does give a better throttle response, I think the car now has a little more pull in mid-range (my Sti V is fitted with SS Backbox and mid-section, downpipe to follow) so all in all I am impressed with the system.

NOISE - I must admit that I didn't expect the Blitz to be quite as loud as it is, but IT DOES SOUND GORGEOUS !

Would anyone mind telling me what the hissing release sound is when changing gear or taking your foot of the loud pedal just befoe the turbo kicks in? Is this the dump valve? Why is is louder with the Bltiz?

NOTE ON ITG FILTER - Just for those who were wondering why I changed out my ITG, it was simply because curiosity and aesthetics got the better of me. I would like to report that after 11,500 miles wit ITG, the wire air sensor thingy (technical term again, Jay please correct ) in the pipe section after the ITG filter was 100% CLEAN AND FREE FROM ANY POLUTION.

Cheers,

Dave
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Technically speaking, as I'm good at that, you're dump valve is louder as your car is working better. Or something like that.
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Howdy..

It sounds like the dump valve.. the reason its noiser is becuase it vents back into the air intake after the MAF/AFM and before the turbo...

The sudden release of air from the dump valve actually blows back out to your air filter.

So previously, the noise would have been muffled by the standard airbox and panel filter...but with an induction kit you will hear the vented air more.

But you say just before the turbo kicks in ? Maybe its just induction noise.. the noise of the air being sucked it ? Or a combination of both..

The wire thing is called an Air Flow Meter (AFM) or a Mass Air Flow Meter (MAF)...different names for the same thing

J.
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