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Old 20 August 2003, 03:40 PM
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I have an sti version 5 (yr98) its not got the red top engine whereas my mates car has a red top engine and his is a version 3.

Does anyone know the difference between a red-top engine and one without a red-top?

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Old 20 August 2003, 03:46 PM
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If its an STI it should have Red Manifolds, perhaps yours has a standard WRX engine.
Old 20 August 2003, 03:48 PM
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Are you sure the paint hasn't come off the manifold (daft question I know)

other than that - check what turbo you have (should be Vf28 IIRC) - if not then your engine may have been messed with or not STI..
Old 20 August 2003, 03:49 PM
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Yup the only Sti's with out the Red manafold was the STi version 1, either yours isnt an STi or its had another engine put in at some time.
Have you got any pics of the car ?

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Old 20 August 2003, 03:50 PM
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As Andy says, all the STi's bar the very earliest had red painted manifolds. It's theoretically possible that all the paint may have fallen off yours, but it's far more likely that either she's had an engine swap, or the car you have is just a normal WRX with some STi badges stuck on.

If your car is a 98MY, BTW, it'd be an STi version 4. The V5's are 99MY

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Also I thought my98's were STi version 4 ??
Old 20 August 2003, 03:56 PM
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STI5 is MY 99 - but you could get hold of them at the end of '98 - confusing huh !!!
Old 20 August 2003, 03:58 PM
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thank you for your replies

Its a version 4 sorry.

Has all abs.. airbags etc

The car has had mods done to it.. exaust. hard suspension and errm induction system which is something i need to know n find out more about as it doesn't seem to be fitted right.

Its very very quick much slightly faster than my mates sti so i never thought much of the engine being different.. i'm gona be gutted if its a wrx and not n sti..

I wana post up pics but i don't know how to..
anyone show me how?

Thanks

Franko
Old 20 August 2003, 04:09 PM
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Have you got any pictures hosted anywhere or got anywebspace to upload them to?

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Old 20 August 2003, 04:20 PM
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Paul

i have webspace with ntl but will need to find out how to access it never used it before..

Need to upload pics onto my computer too.

Thanks Paul
Old 20 August 2003, 04:40 PM
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not a black sti 4 is it?
Old 20 August 2003, 04:45 PM
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No jase its a silver one from leeds.. mates is a black one.
Old 20 August 2003, 04:48 PM
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Does it have twin exhausts at the back? (one at each side)
Old 20 August 2003, 04:51 PM
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no its just got one exhaust light weight body too and its n import.
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As far as I know ALL version 4 Sti engines have the red cover. If not then most definitely a WRX.

I assume it has the Sti logos on seats and instruments ?
Old 20 August 2003, 05:39 PM
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Yup its got sti badges etc...
I've sent you all a pic of the car by email.. sorry its a small pic i'll send you more when i get the chance to take em..

Franko
Old 20 August 2003, 07:14 PM
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I believe that the manifolds are interchangeable though, so no reason that a silver manifold couldn't be fitted to an STI or a red one to a WRX (correct me if I'm wrong).

I can't think of any reason the manifold would be swapped out except maybe for one with bigger injectors already fitted but if it's possible I dare say at least someone out there's done it for whatever reason.

So it seems it's in no way a definitive way to check, I'm not sure of more accurate ways to check but I wouldn't get too worried just yet.
Old 20 August 2003, 07:37 PM
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Isn't there a website somewhere that will tell you the model by entering the VIN ??

Cube.
Old 20 August 2003, 07:46 PM
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The turbo is a IHI VF22... and checking that at MRT performance sti's have IHI turbo's? but of course this could have been added to the wrx engine right?
cant find a site that gives info with the vin number even my insurance comp didn't have it on their database.. they had it as a legacy..
Old 20 August 2003, 07:47 PM
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Looking at your small picture id say its a WRX.
If it was an STi 4 it should have a sticky out splitter on the front, yours hasnt



If should have the same front end as my car, mine is a UK car with the Prodrive body kit on.....STI 4 bits ti you and me



Andy

Old 20 August 2003, 07:59 PM
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Get the applied model number from the vin plate and put it on here, its the one under the actual vin number and will start with GC8-----
I can then tell you exactly what car you have.
Old 20 August 2003, 08:01 PM
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Andy thank you for displaying my pic too.. You got a nice looking car..

The import sti dont all have the front lip on the bumper.. my mates sti didn't have it he had it added later..

and mines toooo low to have a front lip.. it would hit the floor when coming down hill and onto a strait road..

Paul-M thanks for your input and your right there is a possibilty that the manifold could have been changed.. i'll have to look under the bonnet properly and see exactly whats what..

Thanks

Franko
Old 20 August 2003, 08:08 PM
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Leviathan

GC8E48D

Engine Type EJ20KDW6HE
Old 20 August 2003, 08:11 PM
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The car is a WRX if it has the plain manifold and the VF22, look at the rev counter, whats the red line at ?


bob

[Edited by Bob Rawle - 8/20/2003 8:13:46 PM]
Old 20 August 2003, 08:19 PM
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Yep. acording to the data i have, it was manufactured between 9/97 and 3/98.
The second "8" says its a wrx.
And also, its quoted as 280bhp.

The last thing is confuseing because it dose'nt mention anything about "STI" but its listed as 280bhp.

Edited to say that the engine type does tally up with the code.

[Edited by Leviathan - 8/20/2003 8:22:14 PM]
Old 20 August 2003, 08:20 PM
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Confirms WRX and yes they were 280 ps which is why the VF22 was installed, they run slightly lower boost to do it.

Bob
Old 20 August 2003, 08:24 PM
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As Bob says, so you still have a top motor and you dont need henry the red engine for 280bhp.
I bet youl sleep better tonite now
Old 20 August 2003, 08:27 PM
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It redlines at 7.5... sooo its looking like its a WRX i dooont wana believe that its got all the sti badges... inside got ac.. twin airbags etc too...
Old 20 August 2003, 08:28 PM
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Having looked at Bobs post and my papers, actualy, it is 280ps and not bhp so 280ps is about 260bhp
Old 20 August 2003, 08:33 PM
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Thanks Leviathan

I love the car even if its n sti or not.. it looks great and sounds awsome... will need to see if i can get a cheaper insurance IF its a WRX only...


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