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Old 15 April 2003, 11:26 PM
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I am getting my car full decatted next wek with a scoobysport system. It is a 98 v5 sti and i have been looking through a few threads and alot of you guys have these gauges installed. Are these essential or what would i need? Cheers Gary
Old 15 April 2003, 11:28 PM
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Definitely the Knocklink and boost gauge. Definitely the best possbile octane fuel you can get AND octane booster.
Old 15 April 2003, 11:36 PM
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You certainly need a Knock Link. Optimax and a good Octane Booster are also essential.
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LOL I think I need to type quicker

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gott.a get yourself a KnockLink at least and consider getting a Walbro 255ltr/hr Fuel Pump
Old 16 April 2003, 04:54 AM
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Thank you for the replys. I have a boost gauge so will order a knock link. Are these easy to fit?
Old 16 April 2003, 10:50 AM
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Guy's

Can someone explain to me what a knocklink is and what it does????

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Old 16 April 2003, 11:10 AM
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It simply listens for and displays the magnitude of Knock (aka detonation/det and pinking).

The "Knocklink" is actuall a trademark of Link Management Systems, but people tend to generalise and call any knock sensor/display a knocklink.

detonation is a form of abnormal combustion that can cause engine damage. It occurs when a combination of too much heat and pressure exceed the octane rating of the fuel. The fuel ignites spontaneously and explosively, causing a sudden rise in cylinder pressure that produces a metallic pinging or knocking sound. like a marble in a tin can. Detonation can be caused by excess spark advance, low-octane fuel, lean air/fuel mixtures, and/or overheating. Carbon buildup inside the combustion chambers and on the piston face can also increase compression sufficiently to cause detonation. Mild detonation is not harmful, but heavy detonation can damage valves, pistons, rings and rod bearings. It can also cause elevated HC emissions. Detonation can be caused by over advanced timing, a lean fuel mixture, overheated engine or faulty knock sensor.
Your car already has a knock sensor, which the ECU monitors. Is has been known for the ECU to ignore the knock sensor abover certain RPM plus you are relying on the ECU to compensate automatically. You also have no way of knowing how bad it was, if it happened and if it's happening often.

If you fit a knock display you can at least see when it happens, how bad it is and can then back off. It can happen if you've just filled up and have a particularly bad batch of fuel.

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Stefan,

Thanks a lot mate, worth getting one then!!!

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Well at least we agree hypoluxa


See this bit on Bob's site for the knocklink.
http://www.brdevelopments.com/link.html


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Ok then guys,

Best place to buy them????? cheap or.....?????
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Shouldn't be any more than £150 including the external Bosch sensor. Don't go cheap and try tapping into the existing sensor wires as it'll affect the readings.

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Stefan,

What about the one from MRT????

Think it's about £70.

Or which one do you recommend???

Do you have one yourself??

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Old 16 April 2003, 11:57 AM
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Frequently the unit (around £70) is sold seperately to the sensor, & that may be what it is on the MRT site?
As Stefan says, you want the seperate sensor too.
Old 16 April 2003, 11:59 AM
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Ah!

Good thinking.

Still.....any idea where i can get one??

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You can get one from BR Development or JW Racing for starters.

The MRT one will just be the display. It's roughly £70-£80 for the display and £60-£70 for the sensor.

The sensor is way overpriced considering it's just a Bosch one that can be had for about £20 less.

Stefan
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Stefan,

What do you think about this one???

http://shop.scoobynet.co.uk/Product.asp?ProductID=751

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You linked to an AFC computer? This can alter MAF readings to crudely alter fuelling and timing together, but remapping the original or an aftermarket ECU gives you far more control.
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I've absolutely no idea about those. Listen to John though, he'll give you an honest view and is far more knowledgeable than me on this.

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