MY01, Scoobysport Full decat and TEK2
20 October 2002, 12:22 AM
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I'm off to PE next weekend to have my ECU TEK2'ed, and have been looking through some other TEK2 Threads but have not yet seen anyone with it on a bugeye?
I have noticed that some people with the swapout have a really good first da, then it gets a bit crap.
Whats the liklyhood of this happening to the bugeye. Also what sort of comeback will I have with PE if it ends up running like a sack of spuds ?
(PS I'm running SS DP, Mid and BB + ITG at the mo)
I have noticed that some people with the swapout have a really good first da, then it gets a bit crap.
Whats the liklyhood of this happening to the bugeye. Also what sort of comeback will I have with PE if it ends up running like a sack of spuds ?
(PS I'm running SS DP, Mid and BB + ITG at the mo)
20 October 2002, 10:14 AM
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I am not aware of Tek remaps becoming duff over time. I think one person posted saying the performance was worse, but there was never a clear conclusion. Invariably a car that is not driving correctly after a performance remap that works well on other cars (I include PPP here) comes down to a fault on the individual car.
These include amongst others:
Airflow sensor
Lambda sensor
Spark plug gap/wear
Faulty wastegate actuator
Leaks
Previous poorly fitted/executed modifications
Inappropriate tuning parts for the desired effect
Expectation of a rocket ship with minimal cost
I spend as much time sorting all this stuff out as I do mapping cars. On a car where everything is perfect to start with it is usually plain sailing. Unfortunately, there is a temptation for many to think that remapping the ECU will sort out their hesitation/other problems. ECUs are incredibly reliable compared with all the other things I mentioned. Even a MY00 AE802 car should still be smooth and pull well when warm. If the car is not sick beforehand then the results should be good.
These include amongst others:
Airflow sensor
Lambda sensor
Spark plug gap/wear
Faulty wastegate actuator
Leaks
Previous poorly fitted/executed modifications
Inappropriate tuning parts for the desired effect
Expectation of a rocket ship with minimal cost
I spend as much time sorting all this stuff out as I do mapping cars. On a car where everything is perfect to start with it is usually plain sailing. Unfortunately, there is a temptation for many to think that remapping the ECU will sort out their hesitation/other problems. ECUs are incredibly reliable compared with all the other things I mentioned. Even a MY00 AE802 car should still be smooth and pull well when warm. If the car is not sick beforehand then the results should be good.
20 October 2002, 12:13 PM
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In fact on the 2002 WRX the reverse is true. Because of the powerful ignition learning function of the ECU we are finding that the cars make more power after a couple of hundred miles than when we first map them and test them on the dyno.
At present we are re-programming all cars at PE so that we can ensure and guarantee the improvements. In November we will be supplying the software to EcuTeK partners so that others can develop their own mapping.
The results with every car we have done have been phenomenal with all customers being very impressed. You will see genuine before and after graphs (although as I say the power you see on the day will not be as good as what you are getting in another 2-3 days.
Like all EcuTeK products if you are in anyway unhappy there is a 100% refund on the ECU conversion.
We would ask you to bring the car to us running the fuel that you normally use. If you normally run Optimax then do not use this but bring it in on 97 RON fuel. Optimax allows so much more ignition that we would prefer to map and test on 97 and know that things will improve more when you run Optimax. If you run 95 then bring it on 95.
At present we are re-programming all cars at PE so that we can ensure and guarantee the improvements. In November we will be supplying the software to EcuTeK partners so that others can develop their own mapping.
The results with every car we have done have been phenomenal with all customers being very impressed. You will see genuine before and after graphs (although as I say the power you see on the day will not be as good as what you are getting in another 2-3 days.
Like all EcuTeK products if you are in anyway unhappy there is a 100% refund on the ECU conversion.
We would ask you to bring the car to us running the fuel that you normally use. If you normally run Optimax then do not use this but bring it in on 97 RON fuel. Optimax allows so much more ignition that we would prefer to map and test on 97 and know that things will improve more when you run Optimax. If you run 95 then bring it on 95.
20 October 2002, 12:22 PM
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DAVID,
As of next week I will be fully de-catted with scoobysport up-pipe, down-pipe and centre, and maybe a firstorm back box. Also have an ITG filter.
What sort of results (power and torque) are you seeing on cars with similar setups?
And will the remap work well with the de-cat?
I always use Optimax, and sometimes octane booster.
Car is a Euro import my02WRX.
Cheers,
Bob
As of next week I will be fully de-catted with scoobysport up-pipe, down-pipe and centre, and maybe a firstorm back box. Also have an ITG filter.
What sort of results (power and torque) are you seeing on cars with similar setups?
And will the remap work well with the de-cat?
I always use Optimax, and sometimes octane booster.
Car is a Euro import my02WRX.
Cheers,
Bob
20 October 2002, 02:29 PM
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275bhp with 260lbs/ft. Have a look at Developments on www.ecutek.com.
We have done a number of cars to this spec and the results have been impressive.
16.4psi boost and much much smoother power delivery.
We also change the boost control. At the moment boost is mapped to throttle angle, therefore at 50% throttle you get 50% boost. We change it so it is more like the 2000MY where you get much better spool up on lower throttle angles. It makes for much better driveability and easy overtaking on a squeeze of the throttle.
We have done a number of cars to this spec and the results have been impressive.
16.4psi boost and much much smoother power delivery.
We also change the boost control. At the moment boost is mapped to throttle angle, therefore at 50% throttle you get 50% boost. We change it so it is more like the 2000MY where you get much better spool up on lower throttle angles. It makes for much better driveability and easy overtaking on a squeeze of the throttle.
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20 October 2002, 07:19 PM
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PE can do it next week. Give Mervyn a ring for an appoinment.
After that BR Developments, John Banks, Graham Goode (and some others) will have their software when we return from launching the software in the US on the 11th November. (SEMA Show Las Vegas 5-8th if anyone is planning to visit)
After that BR Developments, John Banks, Graham Goode (and some others) will have their software when we return from launching the software in the US on the 11th November. (SEMA Show Las Vegas 5-8th if anyone is planning to visit)
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