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Old 07 January 2005, 06:47 PM
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Will be spending a bag full of hard earned money on a competion exhaust for the STI7 in a couple of weeks. According to Graham at TSL it's the nuts - Only just released (not on website yet) it is a 72mm diameter competion unit with a high flow CAT and as straight as a drain pipe. Apparantly is has only just been "production-ised" and they have only fitted 5 to date.

I'll need another remap afterwards (even after having the TSL333 last year) oh well can't wait.

Anyone here tried one ?
Old 07 January 2005, 06:57 PM
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Graham is a damned good salesman .....He slated my Trust extreme full de-cat when Richard Bulmer re-mapped my car last year. He was determined to talk me into his thunderstorm or what ever it was called at the time. Didn't bother kept what I had and the car gives good BHP........dont believe everything he tells you
Old 07 January 2005, 07:03 PM
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Don't disagree he;s a slick salesman, but I did actively go in search of something better that the stock STI exhaust & Prodrive backbox.

Thats why i'm trying to find someone who tried this new exhaust
Old 07 January 2005, 07:09 PM
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personally if i had some hard earned i would go for a hks hiper with a janspeed d/p
Old 07 January 2005, 07:13 PM
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There are so many exhaust systems out there - I wonder which one is top dog
Old 07 January 2005, 07:19 PM
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Lets just say, Prodrive use Miltek, that must mean something surely!!
Old 07 January 2005, 07:43 PM
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there all pretty much the same, your not going to get any half decent gains from switching to one modded system to another IMO, just buy the one that you like best

standerd to a modded system will give good gains
modded system to modded system isnt worth bothering with

"ooooooooooooooooooooooo i got an extra 1.5bhp and 1lbft by fiting a hyper-extension-gargle-muffler system from ACME goods"

see where im coming from?
Old 07 January 2005, 07:47 PM
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devils advocate. His would be the best, he's selling it !!!

Have a look around b4 u buy. Why do u need a remap, are you going from catted to this? Worth a call to BRD, speak to Branko about exhaust systems & remap as he is v good and gives an honest (& blunt ) answer.

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Old 07 January 2005, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky

hyper-extension-gargle-muffler system from ACME goods"
Do they have a website Micky? How much was it!
Old 07 January 2005, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by simo
devils advocate. His would be the best, he's selling it !!!

Have a look around b4 u buy. Why do u need a remap, are you going from catted to this? Worth a call to BRD, speak to Branko about exhaust systems & remap as he is v good and gives an honest (& blunt ) answer.

simon
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Now thats blunt
Old 07 January 2005, 10:19 PM
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if you are changing from catted to decatted you will need a remap but i could not see exhaust giving much more bhp-group n sounds great though!!
and yes arron that was blunt-i take it you will not be getting your wr1 mapped at tsl unlike some other wr1 owners
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Old 07 January 2005, 10:40 PM
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Everytime they get something new it's always the best thing since sliced bread
Old 07 January 2005, 10:49 PM
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I have to admit that I am not the greatest fan of TSL

however I am perfectly happy with their Group N zorst that I have fitted to my car at the mo

Jon
Old 07 January 2005, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker
I have to admit that I am not the greatest fan of TSL
Jon
I`m with you Elmer, too much 'snake oil' talk for me IMHO

Trust Stiman - seeing as you haven`t got mega power, can i politely say "why bother?" (dont talk that in a bad way please)

there`s an HKS Hiper for a bug-eye on e-bay at the moment, that would do nicely, and it`ll most probably be cheaper than the new system.

just a thought
Old 07 January 2005, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by P.Cole
personally if i had some hard earned i would go for a hks hiper with a janspeed d/p
Absolutely agree.... they fit well, and are at least as well made as anything out there...
The janspeed downpipe is fabulous,,, make sure that you get it lagged though!!
Oh and they sound superb!!!
Hi Paul....
Old 07 January 2005, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RON
Lets just say, Prodrive use Miltek, that must mean something surely!!
Since when????
Old 07 January 2005, 11:55 PM
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i recently purchased a resonated centre and firestorm bb form tsl
got to say i was well impressed...and they answered all my questions
unlike some places <cough>

cheers 2 gavin ;-)
Old 08 January 2005, 08:59 AM
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Hi Guys.

just a quick note to say thanks to Daz for the post, and Im glad everything was what you wanted...

With regards to our new reverse pulse extraction exhaust system, I feel its not fair to make any claims here as to the virtue or extra benefit from fitting it. I think it would be better for the guys who have it fitted to let everyone know what they think (good or bad)...

TrueSTi, we all look forward to seeing you here in a couple of weeks, and if anyone wants to see the system we will be showing it off at the autosports show next week.

Cheers.

Gav...
Old 08 January 2005, 09:53 AM
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The Welshman

Glad you are enjoying it mate,Hks quality is always second to none.

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Old 08 January 2005, 11:08 AM
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I have spent a lot of money at TSL over the years and have always been pleased with their service.

I do agree though that Graham is very quick to slate the competitions products whilst singing the praises of his own.

I remember when I went to the Ecutek launch at Power Engineering (I had the basic Tek1 tweak done to mine whilst I was there). When I visited TSL a month or two later for some brakes Graham was totally damning of Ecutek, claiming you couldn't re-programme the ECU and it was a simple boost clamp that would blow my car up.

His opinion obviously changed. . . . . . .
Old 08 January 2005, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 7 Foot
I do agree though that Graham is very quick to slate the competitions products whilst singing the praises of his own.

I remember when I went to the Ecutek launch at Power Engineering (I had the basic Tek1 tweak done to mine whilst I was there). When I visited TSL a month or two later for some brakes Graham was totally damning of Ecutek, claiming you couldn't re-programme the ECU and it was a simple boost clamp that would blow my car up.

His opinion obviously changed. . . . . . .
V good summary, not good buisness sense to slate the competition imho. I'd rather spend my hard earned elsewhere with people who do a good job and have respect for the others in the market place. Healthy competiotn does not hurt anyone.
Old 08 January 2005, 03:57 PM
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I do agree though that Graham is very quick to slate the competitions products whilst singing the praises of his own.
Well everyone who sells things for a living are going to say that there products are better, if you go into a Subaru dealership, the salesman is going to tell you that the Scoob is better than the Evo, try going into a Mitsubhishi dealership and see if they agree. I think that Gav and Graham are excellent salesman, and thats the reason I went to TSL, cause if you can get my money of me then you must be a good salesman.
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Prodrive don't use Milltek to make there exhausts.

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Old 09 January 2005, 07:30 PM
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AFAIK Scorpion make Prodrive exhausts
Old 09 January 2005, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Daz34
AFAIK Scorpion make Prodrive exhausts
Correct
Old 09 January 2005, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TSL Gav
Hi Guys.

just a quick note to say thanks to Daz for the post, and Im glad everything was what you wanted...

With regards to our new reverse pulse extraction exhaust system, I feel its not fair to make any claims here as to the virtue or extra benefit from fitting it. I think it would be better for the guys who have it fitted to let everyone know what they think (good or bad)...

TrueSTi, we all look forward to seeing you here in a couple of weeks, and if anyone wants to see the system we will be showing it off at the autosports show next week.

Cheers.

Gav...
Before i went to TSL, i checked out all the rest,I/E.. R/CLARK, G/GOODE,S/CLINIC ETC ETC. When i was quoted a price, there were always this extra and you will need this blah blah. But never any proof of power and drivability. I found TSL exceptional in the way they treat you and your car.I recently went for a geometry set up, and was adament i needed a loud dump valve. Gavin could have taken a £100+ off me. But instead he persuaded me that i didn't need it, and any time you ring they now exactly who you are. How many others can say that? S/clinic and their no call return to interested customers. R/clark- and their v-pushy sales service, and g/goode well g/goode enough said(more interested in shiny add on's) I'm not intentionally slating anyone, just my personnel experience. Gavin, graham and paul took my humble little V7 STI WAGON, and made it into the car it was meant to be.So why when you have been there before, question them??????? Everybody i know who has used TSL are nothing less than praisefull of them. Gentlemen i salute you..AWSOME..
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Thank you for the kind words.

Gav...
Old 19 January 2005, 10:10 PM
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... so is their Triple 333 upgrade going to incorporate the new exhaust or stay with the Thundercat system?

Must ring them as I want the Triple on my sti v7 in February.
Old 28 January 2005, 10:19 PM
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I've spoken to Gavin and I'm going to look at the new exhaust system in question, tomorrow.

I'm very interested, as it is a 76mm [3 inch] Sports Cat system whereas their Thundercat is a 2.5 inch Sports Cat system. I've been quoted £2200 all in for the Triple 3 with the new exhaust which is only £100 more than the same upgrade with the traditional ThunderCat system.

My JDM sti v7 is booked in on Feb 21st for the triple 3 treatment and I'm sure I'll be going for the new exhaust system as the gains are higher and I'm told it isn't a loud exhaust which is exactly what I'm looking for.

As my JDM has more robust internals than the UK equivilent, I'm expecting at least 340 lb/ft of torque as a safe minimum, also with an increase in the range of torque.
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I'm up at tsl on thursday for there group a d/p and service,ive used them numerous times and when i email them with questions/prices i know within 48 hours i will have an email back with everything answered in a very professional manner i emailed several places and gavin was the only one to reply,they where not the cheapest out of them but his professionalism swung it.I am also hoping to have a few other bits done if i can swing some discount


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