bluray & amp - such a thing ?
27 December 2013, 02:29 PM
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bluray & amp - such a thing ?
My TV has developed a fault (picture related) and allough its bareable , I'm tempted to take advantage of the xmas sales and get a replacement.
Now , I have a bluray player thats old (no link to net or anything) and my 5.1 amp is even older than that. They do the job but I would like to update everything , and keep it all the same brand (probably not necessary, but may work better together and get a good package deal)
Is there such a thing as a bluray playing 7.1 amp , or do I need all seperate ?
Now , I have a bluray player thats old (no link to net or anything) and my 5.1 amp is even older than that. They do the job but I would like to update everything , and keep it all the same brand (probably not necessary, but may work better together and get a good package deal)
Is there such a thing as a bluray playing 7.1 amp , or do I need all seperate ?
27 December 2013, 02:40 PM
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You can get those packaged 5.1/7.1 kits which have the BD player and amp all built in, but chances are you won't be able to use your existing (presumably passive) speakers.
I'd opt for seperates, and don't feel the need to buy into brand loyalty. Some companies do excellent amps, some do excellent bluray players - why compromise when you can pick and choose?
I'd opt for seperates, and don't feel the need to buy into brand loyalty. Some companies do excellent amps, some do excellent bluray players - why compromise when you can pick and choose?
27 December 2013, 03:28 PM
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Lol , just checked the bank ballance and "I" could spend loads , but "she" might not be just as enthusiastic as me !
My speakers came with the amp , so would like new ones (wouldn't they come with the new amp ?)
So no need for brand loyalty , and separate components . The bluray is a Sony bdp-s300 , is it worth getting a new one ? Will new one do anything better ?
Say £1500 or lower , what would you get ? TV & amp (& bluray if needed)
Its used for Xbox 360 , SkyHD , blurays. No desire for 3D , and am admiring smart TV but I don't download or stream anything so don't know if I need it !
I have always went to Sony Centre (well , for what I have now) but any recommendations welcome.
My speakers came with the amp , so would like new ones (wouldn't they come with the new amp ?)
So no need for brand loyalty , and separate components . The bluray is a Sony bdp-s300 , is it worth getting a new one ? Will new one do anything better ?
Say £1500 or lower , what would you get ? TV & amp (& bluray if needed)
Its used for Xbox 360 , SkyHD , blurays. No desire for 3D , and am admiring smart TV but I don't download or stream anything so don't know if I need it !
I have always went to Sony Centre (well , for what I have now) but any recommendations welcome.
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27 December 2013, 03:53 PM
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I would stick with the blu ray player in all honesty if you have no desire for 3d.
that give you more money towards the sound side of things.
For a entry level set-up this would be ok for your needs http://www.richersounds.com/package/...eals/pah011443
that gives you £1100 for the tv
Then in future just upgrade the speakers gradually
that give you more money towards the sound side of things.
For a entry level set-up this would be ok for your needs http://www.richersounds.com/package/...eals/pah011443
that gives you £1100 for the tv
Then in future just upgrade the speakers gradually
27 December 2013, 04:10 PM
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thought 7.1 was the thing ? Not that my small living room warrants it TBH , and TV sits in corner , with me in the opposite corner so speaker location is difficult.
Oh , and also SonyCentre are doing a "free" bluray with TVs , but if i dont need one i might wrangle a discount of the amp. Is there any decent Sony stuff ? when Googling my TV fault i got the feeling Sony arent what i thought them to be !
What TV do you reckon ? I assume £1100 is going to get a good one. Current one it 47" so no need for anything bigger (well , maybe a wee bit)
Oh , and also SonyCentre are doing a "free" bluray with TVs , but if i dont need one i might wrangle a discount of the amp. Is there any decent Sony stuff ? when Googling my TV fault i got the feeling Sony arent what i thought them to be !
What TV do you reckon ? I assume £1100 is going to get a good one. Current one it 47" so no need for anything bigger (well , maybe a wee bit)
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27 December 2013, 06:02 PM
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Smart tv's have a lot of bugs in them! Mine has to be updated at least every 2months! Not a lot you can do on the tv! LED tv is very good picture quality! If you needed to go smart tv go to currys and buy the smart tv box converter!! Still like richer sounds shops you tell them what you want in store they will create you a package!!
27 December 2013, 06:04 PM
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I used to like sony stuff but i felt other competitors offered more if that makes sense, i only purchase panasonic and samsung for tv viewing now. I would see what panasonic are offering firstly
also don't get too concerned with 7.1 if your room size is small.
also don't get too concerned with 7.1 if your room size is small.
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27 December 2013, 06:56 PM
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so if i go for the Onkyo at £400 , i will look into £1100 worth of Panasonic , rather than £800 worth of Sony.
27 December 2013, 08:09 PM
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is this worth the money (cant get from the RicherSounds site , have to use Irish version)
http://www.richersounds.ie/asp/baske...=6&oc=1&bccs=1
And this TV (cant stretch the budget to the 55" model)
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/o/inito...firmation.html
I cant be arsed looking anymore , either dont have what im looking for , or cant get it where i am !
http://www.richersounds.ie/asp/baske...=6&oc=1&bccs=1
And this TV (cant stretch the budget to the 55" model)
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/o/inito...firmation.html
I cant be arsed looking anymore , either dont have what im looking for , or cant get it where i am !
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27 December 2013, 08:48 PM
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is this worth the money (cant get from the RicherSounds site , have to use Irish version)
http://www.richersounds.ie/asp/baske...=6&oc=1&bccs=1
And this TV (cant stretch the budget to the 55" model)
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/o/inito...firmation.html
I cant be arsed looking anymore , either dont have what im looking for , or cant get it where i am !
http://www.richersounds.ie/asp/baske...=6&oc=1&bccs=1
And this TV (cant stretch the budget to the 55" model)
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/o/inito...firmation.html
I cant be arsed looking anymore , either dont have what im looking for , or cant get it where i am !
27 December 2013, 09:13 PM
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£15 for delivery from richer sounds (dont have the bundle so picked a different amp but same speakers) http://www.richersounds.ie/asp/produ...productid=1365
http://www.richersounds.ie/asp/produ...productid=1395
Free delivery (or can pickup) http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-...62702-pdt.html
http://www.richersounds.ie/asp/produ...productid=1395
Free delivery (or can pickup) http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-...62702-pdt.html
27 December 2013, 09:38 PM
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That'll be spot on mate I have the next model up 626
Get it ordered that panny looks stunning
Good thing with the amp is it has a mic setup to get the levels right so you don't have to dick around with it, you may have to slightly turn up for center and sub but that's about it
Get it ordered
that panny looks stunningGood thing with the amp is it has a mic setup to get the levels right so you don't have to dick around with it, you may have to slightly turn up for center and sub but that's about it
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28 December 2013, 05:29 PM
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08 January 2014, 11:38 PM
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Why is everthing always a pain to "set up" ?
Spent ages playing around with amp (still am TBH) to try and get the right sound. It has a setup mic but I assume with my viewing angle it doesn't like it. The surround speaker beside me is all I can hear , dialed it down (so what use is the mic ? ) and thats sorted , then while watching a bluray the loud bits are LOUD so turn it down which means I cant hear dialog. Found the setting to sort that out , and then there is far too many choices of "audio" settings (Dolby , Prologic , all chanel sterio blah blah blah) I'm still not sure which one I like.
Now tonight I was watching The Conjuring and could see a bloody thing , too dark. Tried a few settings on the tv (while trying not to annoy the missus , I'm always messing around) with no joy so gave up. When the film was over I was determined to sort it seeing I paid good money for the gear. Then it hit me , the bluray player might have settings. Went in and found picture settings and hey presto , it's like a different film.
Why cant all this tech just give me a button to press to give me the best sound and picture !
Spent ages playing around with amp (still am TBH) to try and get the right sound. It has a setup mic but I assume with my viewing angle it doesn't like it. The surround speaker beside me is all I can hear , dialed it down (so what use is the mic ? ) and thats sorted , then while watching a bluray the loud bits are LOUD so turn it down which means I cant hear dialog. Found the setting to sort that out , and then there is far too many choices of "audio" settings (Dolby , Prologic , all chanel sterio blah blah blah) I'm still not sure which one I like.
Now tonight I was watching The Conjuring and could see a bloody thing , too dark. Tried a few settings on the tv (while trying not to annoy the missus , I'm always messing around) with no joy so gave up. When the film was over I was determined to sort it seeing I paid good money for the gear. Then it hit me , the bluray player might have settings. Went in and found picture settings and hey presto , it's like a different film.
Why cant all this tech just give me a button to press to give me the best sound and picture !
Last edited by CharlySkunkWeed; 08 January 2014 at 11:40 PM.
09 January 2014, 10:12 AM
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Agree dont touch the audio setting on the amp let it decide what to pic - the only time I override the amp is when you watch a non hd source as it picks all channel stereo and it sounds poo
make sure any equipment is set to bitstream you have to do this with the ps4 to as it ends up as multi channel
even when using audio return channel and I stream content from my phone to the smart tv it picks the correct sound - the amps are very clever - only adjustments I made was to knock up the centre speaker a little
make sure any equipment is set to bitstream you have to do this with the ps4 to as it ends up as multi channel
even when using audio return channel and I stream content from my phone to the smart tv it picks the correct sound - the amps are very clever - only adjustments I made was to knock up the centre speaker a little
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09 January 2014, 12:48 PM
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http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/aud..._w/?mode=model
I have this best thing I got, sounds great.
I do have another room with a million wires and proper Amp but it rarely gets used
I have this best thing I got, sounds great.
I do have another room with a million wires and proper Amp but it rarely gets used
09 January 2014, 07:40 PM
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Agree dont touch the audio setting on the amp let it decide what to pic - the only time I override the amp is when you watch a non hd source as it picks all channel stereo and it sounds poo
make sure any equipment is set to bitstream you have to do this with the ps4 to as it ends up as multi channel
even when using audio return channel and I stream content from my phone to the smart tv it picks the correct sound - the amps are very clever - only adjustments I made was to knock up the centre speaker a little
make sure any equipment is set to bitstream you have to do this with the ps4 to as it ends up as multi channel
even when using audio return channel and I stream content from my phone to the smart tv it picks the correct sound - the amps are very clever - only adjustments I made was to knock up the centre speaker a little
Audio Output - Stereo or Mono
Digital Audio Output Optical - Dolby D or Normal.
Which of those am I getting ? Isn't optical a different cable ? If so is my amp just receiving Stereo and then depending on what listening mode I choose , converting it into 5.1 surround ? The 2 options that give me the best sound are Dolby Pro Logic ll , or DTS Neo:6 Cinema . Both of which use a Stereo source.
09 January 2014, 08:11 PM
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But the Dolby Digital is "optical" , does that go through HDMI ?
I also wonder if the program I am watching is DD will my amp give me more options. I will take a look.
Edit - no more options , just a more pronounced sound.
I also wonder if the program I am watching is DD will my amp give me more options. I will take a look.
Edit - no more options , just a more pronounced sound.
Last edited by CharlySkunkWeed; 09 January 2014 at 08:14 PM.
10 January 2014, 07:22 AM
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Thanks Ant. I Google it and there is a software update for this. I will give mine a try and see if my box is one that can get it , may not be new enough. It comes with it's own problems though , some people are saying that it won't let DD go through the amp if it's on standby (just letting the tv play the sound) as your tv needs to be DD compatible.