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Old May 23, 2002 | 04:58 PM
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Have an old Mesh P133 at home. Bit slow rendering displays if I have a few windows open (and I normally do - I read one whilst the other downloads via the 56K modem).

Saw a kit to upgrade it to a 400Mhz processor for about £80 in Comet. Sure I can prob get that for £50 elsewhere. Will it give the old beast a new lease of life - maybe make it twice quicker? If so that will do for now on me home PC that's used for Word and browsing only

Thanks for any advice

(has 32Mb Ram)
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Old May 23, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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Fully Understand you dont want fork over £750 to PC world for a new P4 but...

rather than spend £80 (or even £50) on a P133 I'd try and find a second hand PC.

Something like a PII 350 with a 10Gb disk and 64gm ram should be around the £100 mark.

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Old May 23, 2002 | 05:15 PM
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Bumping up the ram will probably have a greater effect.
I hope it can take Dimms not Simms as the latter are getting rather expensive.
Then again, rather than spending £80, a second hand PC might be the way to go. I sold a Dell PII 350 with 128Mb and a 6Gb hard drive to a mate for £150 a few weeks ago.
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Old May 23, 2002 | 05:16 PM
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dsmith - snap!
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Old May 23, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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e.g. http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...threadid=98866
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Old May 23, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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If your after Ram or other bits let me know cos i have a spare bedroom full of kit
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Old May 23, 2002 | 06:25 PM
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me after some 72 pin EDO SIMM.

as for the P133, me too had a P133 notebook but with 64mb. got removable HDD (thinkpad 760) and it will even run windows NT server! a P133 can do everything you want it to do except slower! you are better off buying a used PC than to go for the upgrade. at least you will end up with 2 PCs.

[Edited by suba - 5/23/2002 6:35:02 PM]
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Old May 23, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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I have got a 128mb simm from a thinkpad 380 so will probably work let me know if ur interested
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At those speeds the the 2d graphics rendering capabilities are important too. Agree with the other comments, but the VGA card is just as important. Being a P133, It is extremely unlikely that you have an AGP port, unless you are running a Super Socket7 board, which was out a couple of years later than your chip.

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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:09 PM
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Those 'Speedjump' cpu's RARELY give out anything resembling the performance that they say in the box, so be warned.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 01:19 AM
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everything is relative to the speed of your components. just imagine if you are changing the CPU and the CPU is a turbo boxer engine and the rest of the PC component is a skoda (pre VW!).

so the engine can do 0-60 in 6 seconds but the rest of the car cant! your best bet is to source for a used PC. check the "for sales" section and you can end up a better and faster PC than those "upgrade" options.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 08:11 AM
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Im think im selling P3 1000Mhz 512MB RAM N Case n motherboard

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Old May 24, 2002 | 11:26 AM
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Thanks very much for yer advice chaps. Seems best to go for a later model year

I am actually handy with a soldering iron (best in college year ) so can I lift the existing HDD and drop it in as a, say, D: in any new mainframe? This way I keep all me files and stuff. Have there been differences in how these drives work over the years, and will a more modern 'mainframe' actually talk to me old transplanted fella?

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Old May 24, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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eh??? dont think a PDP-11 HDD can fit into a cray!!!
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Old May 24, 2002 | 11:38 AM
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Now that's the funny reply, and I do know you are not talking about a type of seafood, but what's the answer for my 'mini'frame (or whatever you call the motherboard in the crean box jobbie) then Mr Alec
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Old May 24, 2002 | 11:38 AM
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if by "Mainframe" - you mean new case/mothorboard/cpu etc then yes.

All newer IDE interfaces are backwards comaptible with older IDE drives (no soldering reqd!)

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Old May 24, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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Excellent news - thanks Deano.

There must be one word for 'the cream box full of motherboard with drives and LED's & things' - yes and I guess that is PC - DOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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OMG, don't whack in your old drive from your old machine, unless you are going to transfer data from it. You could use is a file dump, but under no circumstances use it for your OS. It will be a major, major bottleneck in a new machine if you do use it for your OS.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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If I slap the old C HDD in as a D drive on the 'new computer' the OS should boot up from the existing (new) C no? Supose I could then delete the Win 95 folder (keeping me media) on the old drive to avoid any conflict?

I know it propably won't work first time, but there's always Scoobynet to come cryiing to, and i'm willing to try it, as a novice!

Appreciayte the advice - so finally where could I pick up a PC like this - something a bit younger than mine.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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Just for info.....

Make sure that the old drive is setup up as a slave and the new one as a master...

You should be able to set this via the HDD jumpers.
Any probs let me know......

In terms of buying a newer pc try www.loot.co.uk or .com can't remember which!!!
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Old May 24, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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dont think a PDP-11 HDD can fit into a cray!!!
Oh, surely there must be a Unibus to Cray adaptor somewhere Those RL01's were the bees-knees at the time!

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Old May 24, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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or better still, buy your used PC at scoobynet. (i did!)

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