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Old 02 October 2013, 10:40 AM
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Hello there!
As per usual i'm slightly useless with modern tech but i'm not scared to ask the question. So i've got sky broadband in the house. Router is downstairs in lounge. I've got Sky in there & in sitting room & then sky in my daughters room.
I want to setup stuff in my boys room for surfing net & his xbox / ps thing when he stays over. We've got good wireless but i'd like a hard connection. The good thing i think is that we have phone line sockets in every room so could i just plug in a filter & run a hard connection to every room via a switch ?

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Old 02 October 2013, 11:38 AM
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No not with the phone socket.

You will have a microfilter from the master socket to the router, you need RJ45 cables now from the router to the devices you want to connect.

At home I have my router connected this way.
Router to master socket via filter, then fly leads from router to both skybox & PS3.

I just connect other stuff via wireless after that(phones & laptops)
Old 02 October 2013, 11:51 AM
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Ok, I have done this in my house.

I have a sky router in my office, it does not reach wirelessly to my whole house, so I have setup a network with these:

Solwise Homeplug Solwise Homeplug

Basically they use your electrical ring main circuit as a Network.

I have a network cable from my router into a HomePlug in my office.
I have another HomePlug upstairs in the play room, a newtork cable comes out if this into a Desk top
I have also installed a Wireless homeplug at the other end of the house, this just plugs into a socket and sends a new wireless signal from there. So my Wireless is available everywhere and I can use a wired connection from any mains plug in the house.

All plug and play.
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Just to add, you will probably need to buy a couple of network switches, these basicaly take a network input and allows you to have multiple outputs

My network accomodates the following hard wired:

Office
PC
Imac
2 x NAS storage
Vodaphone Sure Signal
livingroom 1
Sky on Demand
Apple TV
Bluray
Living room 2
Sky On Demand
BluRay
Xbox
Smart TV
Upstairs
Desktop

I also have numerous iphones, ipads etc using wireless connections

all sourced from a single sky router using the HomePlug network.

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Old 02 October 2013, 01:08 PM
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Homeplugs are the way to go. The onlt thing I would say is buy all from the same manufacturer. They are supposed to be a standard, but I have found that Manufacturer X ain't so good at speaking to Manufacturer Y.

If you have Cable or fibre broadband, probably better off going for the 500mbps ones too.

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Old 02 October 2013, 03:36 PM
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Another vote for homeplugs, cheap and effective. I would expect your Sky router has more than on RJ45 output on the back, so you'd just plug a cable in there and run it to one of the homeplugs in a nearby plug socket, then in your sons room run a cable from the second homeplug to a basic switch so you can plug in more devices.

The only time I think homeplugs are an issue is if your house has poor wiring, otherwise it works like a charm.

The ones I have are TP-Link (
TP-Link TL-PA211KIT AV200 Nano 200Mbps Powerline Adapter - Twin Pack: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories TP-Link TL-PA211KIT AV200 Nano 200Mbps Powerline Adapter - Twin Pack: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
) which I use for the Xbox and a smart-tv.

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Old 03 October 2013, 10:24 PM
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Another vote for Homeplugs, but even the 500Mbps claimed versions were running only 10Mbps with modern wiring if far apart, rising to about 100Mbps if near enough to get wireless, and they did overheat with heavy traffic.
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What do you mean by "near enough to get wireless"?

I understand that they don't provide enough throughput for Fibre installs?
Old 03 October 2013, 11:09 PM
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I mean that for me, they only ran at high speed when you were near enough to be in the range of wifi anyway and that I would tend to use them only where wifi wouldn't reach and where you couldn't run Cat 6, or when you needed a device that didn't have wireless. Now I don't use any Homeplugs, all wired, through multiple ******* attic areas and walls without decor damage, but very much worth it.
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Wired is the best way for sure, but homeplugs are a good cheap alternative for someone who doesn't want to chase in new cables and replaster/redecorate.
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I have used tp home plugs to get internet in my garage. They use sepearte ring mains and the garage has its own fuse board, performance hasn't dropped off. I have then run a cat5 cable 100metres to an out building, I still can stream videos without buffering at the outbuilding.
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Have heard and read mixed results from homeplugs. I went with a wired setup when we moved with no furniture in the house. Was a bit of a mission but it was worth it. I have telephone over the network cable so for the Sky boxes I can just plug the telephone wire into the network socket on the wall.
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So has anyone got any real world performance data on these homeplugs with regards to sustained throughput.
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I generally get decent throughput (except for one bizarrely, I think it just needs replacing)

These are AV200s



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What does that relate to though - peak I assume, which doesn't mean a great deal in isolation. Can you find out the average at all or a graphed log?
Old 04 October 2013, 03:52 PM
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Well, that was at a point in time obviously, but that program does show it in real time. I left the window open and the speeds stayed pretty consistent.

Just looking again now and they are still hovering at around the same level.

They do get affected by certain appliances, and occasionally the will drop the connection, but they are a lot less hassle than wiring up your house and better than wireless.

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Interesting.... are these the AV200's linked to by hill79 above?
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