Notices
Computer & Technology Related Post here for help and discussion of computing and related technology. Internet, TVs, phones, consoles, computers, tablets and any other gadgets.

Motherboards

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07 March 2013, 01:21 PM
  #1  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unhappy Motherboards

I'll get the embarrassing item out the way first, I bought another 560Ti to go in my system so that I could SLI.
I only quickly looked at the box of my Z68AP-D3 motherboard and saw that it did SLI. Turns out if I'd read it properly it only supports crossfire SLI not the Nvidia version.

So, throwing good money after bad, and secretly hoping a new MB will help sort my random BSOD that have been plaguing me these last few months, does anyone have a recommendation for a motherboard? I don't want to spend mega bucks, hopefully no more than £100.
Needs to be socket 1155 for my i7, oh and of course Nvidia SLI compatible!
Old 07 March 2013, 02:17 PM
  #2  
beanys
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
beanys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

AsRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard (Socket 1155, Intel Z77, Up to 32GB DDR3, ATX, 2 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s, Supports NVIDIA SLI and AMD CrossFireX, Premium Gold Caps)
from amazon £102

This looks good

Last edited by beanys; 07 March 2013 at 02:21 PM.
Old 07 March 2013, 02:24 PM
  #3  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm thinking either of these two...

http://www.ebuyer.com/398379-asrock-...FaTMtAodKSAAyQ

or

http://www.ebuyer.com/345316-msi-z77...oard-z77a-gd65

Is the MSI one worth another £20?
Old 07 March 2013, 02:25 PM
  #4  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

lol dammit, in the time I've researched and posted those two you've already picked out one of them!
Old 07 March 2013, 03:44 PM
  #5  
jura11
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
jura11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: www.slowboy-racing.co.uk
Posts: 10,523
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Hi there

From reading the reviews on both Motherboards I would spend extra £20 for MSi

Here are reviews

AsRock

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...erboard/1509/1

MSI

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,1.html

I've only once ASRock motherboard which has been faultless,but their BIOS or features has been low down for me

Jura
Old 07 March 2013, 10:32 PM
  #6  
bioforger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
bioforger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pig Hill, Wiltsh1te
Posts: 16,995
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

ASUS or MSI FTW
Old 07 March 2013, 11:45 PM
  #7  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I like the look of the ASUS Sabertooth board but out of my price range. Looks like it's the MSI board then
BEFORE I do order it, I think I'd better check what PSU I've got.
Old 08 March 2013, 06:47 AM
  #8  
Galifrey
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Galifrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Corsham
Posts: 1,356
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-389-GI

Would be my choice
Old 08 March 2013, 11:06 AM
  #9  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

This is getting expensive now, I don't think my 600watt PSU is up to it. By the time I've finished buying all the replacement parts I could have bought the latest and greatest graphic card!
Old 08 March 2013, 01:21 PM
  #10  
Rob_Impreza99
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Rob_Impreza99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,944
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Neanderthal

Ive just upgraded my motherboard so i have a Z77X-D3H that i will be selling soon, its 1155 socket, its only 6 months old and was bought from Overlockers.

Read the reviews and the board, its a fantastic mobo and the 3D bios is great. If your interested just let me know.

This is a pic of it, well the bits you can see lol, its been in a well looked after computer.


Last edited by Rob_Impreza99; 08 March 2013 at 01:24 PM.
Old 08 March 2013, 02:17 PM
  #11  
jura11
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
jura11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: www.slowboy-racing.co.uk
Posts: 10,523
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Neanderthal
This is getting expensive now, I don't think my 600watt PSU is up to it. By the time I've finished buying all the replacement parts I could have bought the latest and greatest graphic card!
Hi there

Have look on OCZ,running one and very happy with him

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/c...rsupplies/ocz/

Or try have look on the CoolerMaster series(they're expensive and tried only once,but I prefer OCZ)

About other motherboards,I've tried only once Gigabyte(LGA775 this time) and I've been disappointed with this MB,USB problems mainly with external HDD which are powered by USB,due this I would never choose Gigabyte,simply I don't trust them

ASUS is what i've in my PC and very happy with this MB,friend have MSI,with which have good experience and really rate this MB very highly


Jura
Old 08 March 2013, 03:06 PM
  #12  
Rob_Impreza99
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Rob_Impreza99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,944
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jura11
About other motherboards,I've tried only once Gigabyte(LGA775 this time) and I've been disappointed with this MB,USB problems mainly with external HDD which are powered by USB,due this I would never choose Gigabyte,simply I don't trust them
So your putting down the Gigabyte name based on just one experience of a faulty board ?

Ive had 2 faulty Asus boards in the past, the original one that i RMA'd then the replacement was faulty. Asus apologised and the 3rd one they sent me was fine, i was just unlucky. I had a Panasonic TV that became faulty, should i now not touch Panasonic ? Its the same with Car manufacturers or any other area of manufacturing, you will always get a certain number products with faults as we dont live in a perfect world.

Manufacturers produce millions of motherboards, your bound to get a certain percentage that will be defective with any manufacturer you choose. To say you don't trust them on just one experience of a faulty mobo is a bit laughable really.
Old 08 March 2013, 03:19 PM
  #13  
BlkKnight
Scooby Regular
 
BlkKnight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: High Wycombe
Posts: 3,763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I know you've got an I7 already to go. . .

Intel are releasing the new 1150 socket based Mobo & CPU next month.
Old 08 March 2013, 03:56 PM
  #14  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

hi Rob, yeah would be interested. PM me

BlkKnight, sounds expensive....
I only built this last year
Old 08 March 2013, 03:58 PM
  #15  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Curious thing, my cosair (sp?) 600watt PSU isn't listed on Nvidia's SLI ready list but I have an additional PCI-E power cable in the box? why would they supply 2 if it could only run one card? or is this another 'no to SLI but yes to Crossfire'?
Old 08 March 2013, 06:05 PM
  #16  
jura11
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
jura11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: www.slowboy-racing.co.uk
Posts: 10,523
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
So your putting down the Gigabyte name based on just one experience of a faulty board ?

Ive had 2 faulty Asus boards in the past, the original one that i RMA'd then the replacement was faulty. Asus apologised and the 3rd one they sent me was fine, i was just unlucky. I had a Panasonic TV that became faulty, should i now not touch Panasonic ? Its the same with Car manufacturers or any other area of manufacturing, you will always get a certain number products with faults as we dont live in a perfect world.

Manufacturers produce millions of motherboards, your bound to get a certain percentage that will be defective with any manufacturer you choose. To say you don't trust them on just one experience of a faulty mobo is a bit laughable really.
Hi Rob

Yes I know its only based on one experience,but have tried few of MB from Gigabyte,few people running them what I know and they're disappointed too with GB,I wouldn't choose GB for my PC,but that's me

I've tried few of MB like on LGA775 or LGA1366/1156,but in my opinion Asus MB are best


Jura

Originally Posted by Neanderthal
Curious thing, my cosair (sp?) 600watt PSU isn't listed on Nvidia's SLI ready list but I have an additional PCI-E power cable in the box? why would they supply 2 if it could only run one card? or is this another 'no to SLI but yes to Crossfire'?
I don't think yours 600W will be OK with SLI,OCZ now have and has been faultless,they're not expensive and you can still sell yours without the problem

Jura
Old 08 March 2013, 07:35 PM
  #17  
beanys
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
beanys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

From past experiance running SLI will need more than 600 w psu deffo mate
Old 08 March 2013, 09:01 PM
  #18  
eagle
Scooby Regular
 
eagle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: south
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i have to agree with jura .. had 2 gigabyte boards and both were an issue .. had many asus ones and had no problems.
if you dont mind having them running at x8 and x8 then the asus p8z77v (@ about £125) will do that,
if you want them running at x16 on both then you will have to spend alot more..
Old 09 March 2013, 07:12 AM
  #19  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm torn whether to bother or not.
So far I'm in for £120 on the card, then there's another £100-120 on an MB and £80 on a PSU + the hassle of stripping out the PC and doing a fresh install. So probably £300 smackers to get a performance increase that a new single £300 card would easily better?
Old 09 March 2013, 08:39 AM
  #20  
TonyBurns
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
TonyBurns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: 1600cc's of twin scroll fun :)
Posts: 25,565
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

The BSOD issue with the Z68 boards was normally fixed with a BIOS update due to it being the first board to run with the new boot system, had the same issue with mine, with in the first 2 months they had released 3 or 4 new BIOS upgrades for it! ;eek:
Old 09 March 2013, 10:06 AM
  #21  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Would I be better off just selling my 560Ti's and buying two new ATi cards?
If so which ones?
Old 09 March 2013, 10:41 AM
  #22  
TonyBurns
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
TonyBurns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: 1600cc's of twin scroll fun :)
Posts: 25,565
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

How much do you want to spend on graphics cards?
Old 09 March 2013, 12:35 PM
  #23  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well to upgrade with what I've got it'll be £250-300 so is there a ATI card for £200 that'll be better?
Old 09 March 2013, 06:37 PM
  #24  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well updated the bios, can't comment on whether it's fixed BSOD as it's so random it can go weeks without one then have two in a day.
What it has done is reset the settings so my 'overclocked' bundle I bought from Scan is now standard speeds...
Old 09 March 2013, 06:46 PM
  #25  
TonyBurns
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
TonyBurns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: 1600cc's of twin scroll fun :)
Posts: 25,565
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

You will be able to pick up a 7950 for around 220-250 easily (new) which will be a good improvement.
Overclocking should be fairly easy to do depending on the mo bo, most have the facility on the mobo, just boot it up in bios mode and you should be able to do it from there and save the settings
Old 13 March 2013, 01:12 PM
  #26  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How come this 420W PSU can do SLI but my 600W one doesn't?

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/420w-...-xfire-eps-12v

Only £50 as well. I'd need it to power the CPU, GPUs, Blu-Ray drive, one SSD, 2 HD's and then the USB powered things like two HD's, iphone charger etc.
Old 13 March 2013, 01:22 PM
  #27  
jura11
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
jura11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: www.slowboy-racing.co.uk
Posts: 10,523
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Neanderthal
How come this 420W PSU can do SLI but my 600W one doesn't?

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/420w-...-xfire-eps-12v

Only £50 as well. I'd need it to power the CPU, GPUs, Blu-Ray drive, one SSD, 2 HD's and then the USB powered things like two HD's, iphone charger etc.
Because is 85% efficient(80% plus Bronze),which means is more efficient than normal PSU

Have look for OCZ,running one and usually they're 80% plus efficient and cost less


Jura
Old 13 March 2013, 01:28 PM
  #28  
jura11
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
jura11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: www.slowboy-racing.co.uk
Posts: 10,523
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Neanderthal
Well updated the bios, can't comment on whether it's fixed BSOD as it's so random it can go weeks without one then have two in a day.
What it has done is reset the settings so my 'overclocked' bundle I bought from Scan is now standard speeds...
What I know,in yours case can be the PSU is not for this job,nVidia cards are usually more power hungry as their counterparts from ATi

Are you tried to clean install new drivers and uninstall old drivers via DriverSweeper etc.?

Try clean installation of the drivers and you will see if this helps,if not check the connection on yours GPU,yours PSU have two 6/8 pins for GPU?


Jura
Old 13 March 2013, 02:01 PM
  #29  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Haven't had a BSOD since updating the Bios. Well that was until I tried to overclock the CPU back to the settings it was before (Scan pre-overclocked bundle).
Then I had BSOD'orama and had a hell of a job convincing Windows to load again.
Anyway, back up and running with a slightly overclocked CPU.
Still in two minds as to bother to all this upgrading to just SLI. Will I get any extra longevity out of a newer PSU and Motherboard? bearing in mind I only built this PC beginning of last year
Will definately look at the OCZ PSU's Jura
Old 13 March 2013, 02:44 PM
  #30  
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
Neanderthal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The reviews I'm reading about the OCZ PSU's, whilst positive, a lot of people are commenting on the length of the cables being quite short. My PSU is mounted at the bottom of the case so I'm worried that'll be a problem?


Quick Reply: Motherboards



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:29 PM.