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13 March 2013, 02:51 PM
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Not sure if this is relevant, but if you have an OEM version of Windows will it still work with a new motherboard? I had read that they are linked to your MD so if you change it, it will think you are running on a new PC and need another license. As I said, I don't know if this is true but may be something to consider if it is.
13 March 2013, 03:02 PM
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Haven't had a BSOD since updating the Bios. Well that was until I tried to overclock the CPU back to the settings it was before (Scan pre-overclocked bundle).
Then I had BSOD'orama and had a hell of a job convincing Windows to load again.
Anyway, back up and running with a slightly overclocked CPU.
Still in two minds as to bother to all this upgrading to just SLI. Will I get any extra longevity out of a newer PSU and Motherboard? bearing in mind I only built this PC beginning of last year
Will definately look at the OCZ PSU's Jura
Then I had BSOD'orama and had a hell of a job convincing Windows to load again.
Anyway, back up and running with a slightly overclocked CPU.
Still in two minds as to bother to all this upgrading to just SLI. Will I get any extra longevity out of a newer PSU and Motherboard? bearing in mind I only built this PC beginning of last year
Will definately look at the OCZ PSU's Jura
Have look on this OCZ PSU
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...FUbMtAodOHYA7Q
What CPU cooler you are running,if you are still running OEM CPU cooler,I would say,I would upgrade without the doubts for better one if you are want to overclock yours bundle
What CPU you are running?
Extra longevity with upgraded GPU and Motherboard,not sure,if you have enough good CPU and good MB I would go with better GPU,which can easy beat SLI for less than upgrading everything
As you know some games still doesn't support SLI/Crossfire
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13 March 2013, 06:55 PM
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It's an Artic Cooler fan, was part of an 'overclocked bundle' that Scan do.
CPU is an i7 2600k, current MB is the Gbyte GA-Z68AP-D3.
Think I'm better off selling the two 560ti's I have (annoyingly I can't return the new one as I've opened it) and just getting a better ATI based card.
CPU is an i7 2600k, current MB is the Gbyte GA-Z68AP-D3.
Think I'm better off selling the two 560ti's I have (annoyingly I can't return the new one as I've opened it) and just getting a better ATI based card.
13 March 2013, 06:59 PM
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Not sure if this is relevant, but if you have an OEM version of Windows will it still work with a new motherboard? I had read that they are linked to your MD so if you change it, it will think you are running on a new PC and need another license. As I said, I don't know if this is true but may be something to consider if it is.
13 March 2013, 11:10 PM
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It's an Artic Cooler fan, was part of an 'overclocked bundle' that Scan do.
CPU is an i7 2600k, current MB is the Gbyte GA-Z68AP-D3.
Think I'm better off selling the two 560ti's I have (annoyingly I can't return the new one as I've opened it) and just getting a better ATI based card.
CPU is an i7 2600k, current MB is the Gbyte GA-Z68AP-D3.
Think I'm better off selling the two 560ti's I have (annoyingly I can't return the new one as I've opened it) and just getting a better ATI based card.
Yes CPU cooler used this CPU cooler before on my previous build(i7-920) and still I've managed nice numbers(4.4GHz)
When you are getting BSOD,I would try disable Speed Step,any sort of the power saving modes etc
About the GPU,not sure,if yours MB support Crossfire I would go with ATi GPU,I've never have any problems with ATi cards,in some cases,mainly in rendering(Mental ray,VRay,Poser Pro etc.) I would use nVidia card and overclocked CPU
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13 March 2013, 11:20 PM
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Yeah my current MB does support crossfire. I'm leaning towards switching to an ati card, chopping in the 560's and seeing where that gets me.
So is a 7950 a good step up in performance to my 560ti?
So is a 7950 a good step up in performance to my 560ti?
14 March 2013, 07:41 AM
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14 March 2013, 11:10 AM
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Suppose it'll depend on what I can get for the 560Ti's. If it gets me close to the price of a 7970 I may just pay the difference.
14 March 2013, 01:31 PM
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7970 is only about 5% faster clock for clock than 7950. More for benchmarkers really and not worth the extra over a 7950. If the 7950 won't play it, neither will the 7970!
14 March 2013, 04:39 PM
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As I said depends on more factors,which card I would choose
Good tests
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...essor/?page=14
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...d-7970-clocks/
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14 March 2013, 05:38 PM
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lol I'm completely bewildered now. Perhaps I should just sell the extra 560 and live with what I've got till a titan card comes down to £400 
15 March 2013, 08:28 AM
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Hi Rob
Yes I know its only based on one experience,but have tried few of MB from Gigabyte,few people running them what I know and they're disappointed too with GB,I wouldn't choose GB for my PC,but that's me
I've tried few of MB like on LGA775 or LGA1366/1156,but in my opinion Asus MB are best
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I don't think yours 600W will be OK with SLI,OCZ now have and has been faultless,they're not expensive and you can still sell yours without the problem
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Yes I know its only based on one experience,but have tried few of MB from Gigabyte,few people running them what I know and they're disappointed too with GB,I wouldn't choose GB for my PC,but that's me
I've tried few of MB like on LGA775 or LGA1366/1156,but in my opinion Asus MB are best
Jura
I don't think yours 600W will be OK with SLI,OCZ now have and has been faultless,they're not expensive and you can still sell yours without the problem
Jura
Gigabyte have some of the best QC in the industry, I choose them for reliability over performance, Asus can often have a minor edge (less than 1%) in performance but reliability lets them down.
15 March 2013, 08:29 AM
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I have 2 580 gtx's and tbh I almost always run out of SLI mode. The heat generated, power consumption and performance gain on most games isn't worth it, Crysis games I usually re-enable it, and will probably do the same for Bioshock as it is more GPU intensive.
15 March 2013, 10:44 AM
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I have read that it's always better to get one single good card over an SLi set up (should have read up before I bought the 2nd card!).
18 March 2013, 09:55 AM
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Need to order a new PSU.
Thinking either of these...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-058-EN
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-...m-quiet-fan-at
or this one that's just popped up in my inbox...
http://www.ebuyer.com/265709-ocz-zx-...ign=b2c_monday
Thinking either of these...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-058-EN
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-...m-quiet-fan-at
or this one that's just popped up in my inbox...
http://www.ebuyer.com/265709-ocz-zx-...ign=b2c_monday
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18 March 2013, 01:13 PM
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I'd go with this (and did!):
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/850w-...et-fan-atx-psu
Only fires up the fan if it gets too hot, and good length connectors. (preorder at scan but can get elsewhere)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/850w-...et-fan-atx-psu
Only fires up the fan if it gets too hot, and good length connectors. (preorder at scan but can get elsewhere)
18 March 2013, 02:55 PM
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I've read good things about Seasonic PSUs. Shame it's pre-order on Scan, £20 cheaper on there to Ebuyer etc.
18 March 2013, 04:05 PM
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If you can stretch your budget a little go for either a Corsair AX fully modular or a Seasonic fully modular. I use the Corsair AX850 myself, they are a nice quiet psu.
Having a fully modular PSU is great, it allows you to just plug in the cables you need, also it allows you to take out the PSU to clean your case and c lean the PSU itself just by unplugging the cables.
http://www.ebuyer.com/227503-corsair...FcHHtAodzCIAKQ
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-026-SS
Having a fully modular PSU is great, it allows you to just plug in the cables you need, also it allows you to take out the PSU to clean your case and c lean the PSU itself just by unplugging the cables.
http://www.ebuyer.com/227503-corsair...FcHHtAodzCIAKQ
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-026-SS
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18 March 2013, 04:35 PM
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Been building PC's for me and friends since 486's and have only ever had one problematic Gigabyte board (pentium 2) compared to loads of issues with Asus and MSI.
Gigabyte have some of the best QC in the industry, I choose them for reliability over performance, Asus can often have a minor edge (less than 1%) in performance but reliability lets them down.
Gigabyte have some of the best QC in the industry, I choose them for reliability over performance, Asus can often have a minor edge (less than 1%) in performance but reliability lets them down.
Jura
Need to order a new PSU.
Thinking either of these...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-058-EN
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-...m-quiet-fan-at
or this one that's just popped up in my inbox...
http://www.ebuyer.com/265709-ocz-zx-...ign=b2c_monday
Thinking either of these...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-058-EN
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-...m-quiet-fan-at
or this one that's just popped up in my inbox...
http://www.ebuyer.com/265709-ocz-zx-...ign=b2c_monday
I've used only CoolerMaster and OCZ,I'm very happy with the them,but personal preference is for me OCZ
Have look on this too for £79.99 at PC World OCZ ZS750 its 80plus Bronze which should be OK for yours needs
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/ocz-zs...waqpt&istBid=t
Jura
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18 March 2013, 04:36 PM
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How often do you take a PSU out to clean it then? 
The Corsair I've got at the moment has a noisy fan (I presume it's that and not the GPU fan!). If I could find a seasonic PSU that is in stock and not more than £120 I'd get one.
Champing at the bit to rebuild it now!
The Corsair I've got at the moment has a noisy fan (I presume it's that and not the GPU fan!). If I could find a seasonic PSU that is in stock and not more than £120 I'd get one.
Champing at the bit to rebuild it now!
18 March 2013, 04:45 PM
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I give my PC i light clean at the end of each week, just a quick blow with Dust off and a quick wipe inside.
I probably clean it thorough once every 6 months, psu out, mobo out, leave ram on the mobo and cpu cooler etc. It doesn't take long at all especially with having a fully modular psu, so twice a year for a thorough clean.
I probably clean it thorough once every 6 months, psu out, mobo out, leave ram on the mobo and cpu cooler etc. It doesn't take long at all especially with having a fully modular psu, so twice a year for a thorough clean.
19 March 2013, 10:25 AM
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FFS thought I'd route around for my Windows 7 disk. Found my two copies of home premium, neither of which I used on this machine. Checked my invoice from Scan, I bought an OEM version with it and to top it all off I can't find the DVD!
I've used magicjellybean Key retriever and have the Product ID and CD Key but I'm guessing that's not gonna be of any use when Windows decides it's on a new PC.
What's the crack? do I phone MS up after the swap and convince them I've swapped motherboards? must be pretty common?
I've used magicjellybean Key retriever and have the Product ID and CD Key but I'm guessing that's not gonna be of any use when Windows decides it's on a new PC.
What's the crack? do I phone MS up after the swap and convince them I've swapped motherboards? must be pretty common?
19 March 2013, 12:07 PM
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So your up and running with the new motherboard 
Yeh it will be pretty common, people have motherboards replaced under warranty as well as upgrading them.
Do you know anyone thats got a windows 7 home premium disc that you can borrow ? I'm pretty sure your key will work with any disc as long as its the same version, i'm sure someone on here would do a copy for you if they have it, i'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit so that wouldn't be of any help.
I'd ring microsoft anyway, they may send you a new disc as you have the serial code, i have a feeling though that they may tell you to contact the manufacturer who supplied you with the OEM version which came with your pc.
Yeh it will be pretty common, people have motherboards replaced under warranty as well as upgrading them.
Do you know anyone thats got a windows 7 home premium disc that you can borrow ? I'm pretty sure your key will work with any disc as long as its the same version, i'm sure someone on here would do a copy for you if they have it, i'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit so that wouldn't be of any help.
I'd ring microsoft anyway, they may send you a new disc as you have the serial code, i have a feeling though that they may tell you to contact the manufacturer who supplied you with the OEM version which came with your pc.
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19 March 2013, 04:30 PM
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No Rob, PSU hasn't arrived yet
I've got both the DVD's from my home premiums, although I'm hoping not to have to do a reinstall
I've got both the DVD's from my home premiums, although I'm hoping not to have to do a reinstall