game changer my ass lol
15 March 2012, 02:02 PM
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game changer my *** lol
Seems like everyweek a new product comes out that companies claim are game changers.
what total pish, for example other than the looks, the media formats and increase in performance whats the difference between a comador 64 and the latest alienware gaming machine?
the new media type sugested for the new verison of the xbox, whats new about that? its just a different method of transfering files
what total pish, for example other than the looks, the media formats and increase in performance whats the difference between a comador 64 and the latest alienware gaming machine?
the new media type sugested for the new verison of the xbox, whats new about that? its just a different method of transfering files
15 March 2012, 02:31 PM
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i wouldn't say it was, touch screen has been around for a long long time.
first touch screen mobile type device was nintendo DS in 2004, iphone was first multi-touch in 09, but touch screen has been aroucd since the 1970's, so thats nothing new, just shrunk to fit and also it was delayed untill 2000's due to cost, not the actualy tech itself.
first touch screen mobile type device was nintendo DS in 2004, iphone was first multi-touch in 09, but touch screen has been aroucd since the 1970's, so thats nothing new, just shrunk to fit and also it was delayed untill 2000's due to cost, not the actualy tech itself.
15 March 2012, 02:42 PM
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there is a difference yes, however it doesn't justify a bold 'game changer' headline. exactly what has it changed? you move your fingers across instead of hitting a button, not exactly a massive change is it lol
15 March 2012, 02:44 PM
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I think it can be considered a Game Changer if the "Game" changed. And following the release of the iPhone with iOS and Multitouch the mobile market changed. That's undeniable.
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15 March 2012, 02:52 PM
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thing is though the iphone took already existing tech and repackaged it, HTC/xda etc were around before the iphone, were smartphones in different packages.
Also the first smart phone's were released as pocket pc's, so was the smart phone such a big step or just a rebrand?
im not saying it about a specific product, although its gone down the phone route now lol, but just in general
Also the first smart phone's were released as pocket pc's, so was the smart phone such a big step or just a rebrand?
im not saying it about a specific product, although its gone down the phone route now lol, but just in general
15 March 2012, 03:14 PM
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Regardless of your opinion of Apple and their products you cannot deny the iPhone was a game changer.
Look at phones now compared to what was around when the iPhone was released.
Even people who hate Apple benefit from Apple products as it simply increases competition and drives innovation in competitors.
Regardless of your opinion of Apple and their products you cannot deny the iPhone was a game changer.
Look at phones now compared to what was around when the iPhone was released.
Even people who hate Apple benefit from Apple products as it simply increases competition and drives innovation in competitors.
15 March 2012, 03:17 PM
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Yeah, well done apple ... the mrs bought an ipod nano (much to my disgust) and itunes properly rogered my laptop.
feckin well done apple.... you tw@ts!
take existing tech .... repackage in a slinky metrosexual box ..... sell for twice as much to people that dont know any better ..... cant fault them for theyre business strategy though!
feckin well done apple.... you tw@ts!
take existing tech .... repackage in a slinky metrosexual box ..... sell for twice as much to people that dont know any better ..... cant fault them for theyre business strategy though!
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The only thing "game changing" that Apple have done is in the field of advertising. They are natural salesmen who no doubt could sell snow to eskimos. It has little or nothing to do with the technology involved as I can't think of a single thing they have done "first". They just know how to package and sell existing technology in a way that appeals to the masses. No that there's anything wrong with that
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15 March 2012, 04:05 PM
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The only thing "game changing" that Apple have done is in the field of advertising. They are natural salesmen who no doubt could sell snow to eskimos. It has little or nothing to do with the technology involved as I can't think of a single thing they have done "first". They just know how to package and sell existing technology in a way that appeals to the masses. No that there's anything wrong with that
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I have to agree with the iTunes comments
Although I don't have as many problems running it on my MacBook compared to a Windows PC.
I store all my media no my NAS and I hate the fact that at times when I launch iTunes a lot of my songs have the exclamation point next to them saying it can't locate the file...
Although I don't have as many problems running it on my MacBook compared to a Windows PC.
I store all my media no my NAS and I hate the fact that at times when I launch iTunes a lot of my songs have the exclamation point next to them saying it can't locate the file...
15 March 2012, 04:37 PM
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In most cases Apple are about taking something that is already in the market and making it look nicer, making it work that little bit simpler, and of course, charging you a lot more money for it
They don't innovate as far as introducing new products, although the iPod was pretty close and I guess the iPad too, yes there were products in the market that performed a similar role but you have to agree the iPod revolutionised digital music.
I agree on the marketing, my wife is a marketing consultant and they are at the pinnacle at marketing, all other marketing companies try to emulate their strategy, and mainly fall flat on their faces.
But that was the genius behind Steve Jobs, Wozniak was the technical genius and Steve understood more how to drive it forward and turn it into a successful business, by delivering clever products that worked well and a very clever marketing strategy.
In most cases Apple are about taking something that is already in the market and making it look nicer, making it work that little bit simpler, and of course, charging you a lot more money for it
They don't innovate as far as introducing new products, although the iPod was pretty close and I guess the iPad too, yes there were products in the market that performed a similar role but you have to agree the iPod revolutionised digital music.
I agree on the marketing, my wife is a marketing consultant and they are at the pinnacle at marketing, all other marketing companies try to emulate their strategy, and mainly fall flat on their faces.
But that was the genius behind Steve Jobs, Wozniak was the technical genius and Steve understood more how to drive it forward and turn it into a successful business, by delivering clever products that worked well and a very clever marketing strategy.
15 March 2012, 05:09 PM
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In most cases Apple are about taking something that is already in the market and making it look nicer, making it work that little bit simpler, and of course, charging you a lot more money for it
They don't innovate as far as introducing new products, although the iPod was pretty close and I guess the iPad too, yes there were products in the market that performed a similar role but you have to agree the iPod revolutionised digital music.
I agree on the marketing, my wife is a marketing consultant and they are at the pinnacle at marketing, all other marketing companies try to emulate their strategy, and mainly fall flat on their faces.
But that was the genius behind Steve Jobs, Wozniak was the technical genius and Steve understood more how to drive it forward and turn it into a successful business, by delivering clever products that worked well and a very clever marketing strategy.
In most cases Apple are about taking something that is already in the market and making it look nicer, making it work that little bit simpler, and of course, charging you a lot more money for it
They don't innovate as far as introducing new products, although the iPod was pretty close and I guess the iPad too, yes there were products in the market that performed a similar role but you have to agree the iPod revolutionised digital music.
I agree on the marketing, my wife is a marketing consultant and they are at the pinnacle at marketing, all other marketing companies try to emulate their strategy, and mainly fall flat on their faces.
But that was the genius behind Steve Jobs, Wozniak was the technical genius and Steve understood more how to drive it forward and turn it into a successful business, by delivering clever products that worked well and a very clever marketing strategy.
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But it ultimately benefits everyone because even if you hate Apple and wouldn't buy their products, the competing products you buy instead are better as a result of what Apple do
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I wouldn't buy an apple from a fruit shop, let alone buy anything made by Apple.
Used an Apple computer in a hotel last year and it was a slow arsed sack of crap. That may have been the internet connection, but, I don't care!
Used an Apple computer in a hotel last year and it was a slow arsed sack of crap. That may have been the internet connection, but, I don't care!
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I think it's the other way round these days, who were first to release a quad core tablet or phone? who were the first to have 1080p HD video camera on their devices, who were the first with front facing cameras phones, etc etc, Not Apple. So with that, it's other phones that is making Apple change their game to make better phones for you.
Anything that locks me down as a user and insists I do things their way is bad by my book, and only suited to technon00bs with no imagination or ability to even try something different.
Apple have merely incorporated exisiting technology and put it into a marketing package. Thankfully the worlds courts are starting to realise you cannot patent something that is already in existence, and soon they will realise that trying to licence a name by pretending it is for a company with the initials I.P.A.D. is dishonest and will cost Apple millions imho.
The real success of the ipod was itunes (yeah I know it is sh@t now), and the real success of the iphone was the apps market (Which Android is catching up with) that allowed almost anyone to write software for it, because in both cases there are better mp3 players and better smartphones.
Ipad or Asus Transformer Prime? Well the Ipad 3 has a better display, possibly more games available (if you only count native software) and it is backward compatible with existing Iphone and Ipad software, so that is a positive. Then the Asus, native keyboard addon, slimmer than the Ipad, doesnt get as hot, has a faster CPU (quad core Nvidia Tegra 1.3ghz) and Nvidia gfx, has a great archive of exisiting games, AND can run Onlive cloud gaming with a free app, so has access to masses of console and PC games as well.
Which will prevail? My money is on the Ipad 3, because as Steve Jobs found out years ago, having a better product doesn't mean success, just marketing it better is what gives success.
I could be surprised, what made the PC a success was it's open source hardware, which Android has in its favour, but you cannot underestimate the Apple marketing machine.
For comparison, before the iphone I had many XDA phones and Nokia Communicator, to my mind the Nokia Communicator had the best layout of any smartphone, with a real phone keypad on the outside and opening up to a neat little computer. My HTC desire-Z is as close as I have been able to get to that right now.
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