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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Im in very bad need of a career change , place and field Im working in at the moment is on the way down with no change visible in the near future

I am returning to college to be re-educated in the hope of getting an entry level job in IT

The course I am looking at doing is for the Cisco CCNA qualification

Would this be good enough for prospective employers to get me in the door?

There are other courses available such as MSCA/MSCE, Comptia A+ and Network +

Any opionions on these ?

Thanks for any help !
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Hi there here is link for average salary etc.
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/ccna.do
I think CCNA is entry level of Cisco,but Cisco is leading company in networking.
I really i don't know but you will need experience,because without experience probably you get job,but not easy like other which have 5 years experience.
If you have time and money try other courses and get from other courses certificate.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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Jura, I hope you don't talk the way you type

Networking is a black art. Coding is pretty simple, but as jura 'says' you'll need some sort of foot in the door to stand above and apart from other candidates.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
Jura, I hope you don't talk the way you type

Networking is a black art. Coding is pretty simple, but as jura 'says' you'll need some sort of foot in the door to stand above and apart from other candidates.
Hi there yep my english its not the best,but i'm here in UK 1 year and i never speak before english,please bear with mind.
I'm talking from my own experience,i work in Czech Republic for Cisco almost 6 year(amazing opportunity for everyone) ,after this i work for Sun Microsystems several months,but this job was just nightmare...
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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Your english is far better than my czech!!

Carry on
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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You'll need more than just a CCNA to get any decent job, unless you are ok with 15k 1st line support
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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Prob would be initially while getting a few more certs along the way
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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A CCNA is not entry level, it is 2nd tier.

All I can say is, search the job market right now and choose wisely when you come to choosing your specialty and where it will lead you.

A fundamental qualification, I would assume, would be needed, unless you fully appreciate the Cisco career path, I never and as such most of my Cisco quals are void in the grand scheme of things (3 year retakes at same or higher level)
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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CCNA followed by CCNP for most companies for reasonable money now.

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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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CCIE - thats where the money's at!!!
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tarmac terror
CCIE - thats where the money's at!!!
Not any more! People want to pay peanuts for CCIE's now. Not long ago they could command close to if not more than a six fig salary.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
Not any more! People want to pay peanuts for CCIE's now. Not long ago they could command close to if not more than a six fig salary.
They still demand 40k+, it's just getting the job as more and more people get the qualification.
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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When people ask what I do for a job Im tempted to say IT but stop myself as its such a broad category. But if you say "telecoms and wide area networking" you get a blank face back lol.

CCNA is still seen as entry level in the industry. Yes Cisco have now allowed you to break it up and do it in two parts via the CCENT but that doesnt really change anything.

Like most things certification wise it doesnt mean your any good but can get you noticed in terms of CV and therefore hopefully an interview. I have seen plenty of CCNPs who are hopeless even after a couple of years in a relevant role. Some people just seem incapable of understanding networking. On the flipside Ive had former car mechanics come through and pick it up like they were born to do it.

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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
They still demand 40k+, it's just getting the job as more and more people get the qualification.
Yeah, like I said, peanuts to a few years back! For the amount of work that goes into CCIE its not worth it for 40k ish.
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
Yeah, like I said, peanuts to a few years back! For the amount of work that goes into CCIE its not worth it for 40k ish.
Yep its been a long while since CCIE were commanding £100k+ salaries at least right after gaining the cert. In fact Id say that was a bit of an internet myth.

As for effort it depends on the person as I know some who passed in less than a year from starting lab studies and others whove taken several years and several attempts + a lot of wonga.

£40k is bare minimum for a CCIE unless its just a book worm with no real industry experience to back it up. Weve just had a recent CCIE leave and he was running via our internal scheme = paid for but sign up for 2 yrs or pay back costs at a rolling rate. He quickly got a new role outside of London which was lucrative enough to make him not be worried about paying his costs back.

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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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Thanls for all the advice guys

great help
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