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02 September 2010, 10:43 AM
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some advice please 
Im in very bad need of a career change , place and field Im working in at the moment is on the way down with no change visible in the near future
I am returning to college to be re-educated in the hope of getting an entry level job in IT
The course I am looking at doing is for the Cisco CCNA qualification
Would this be good enough for prospective employers to get me in the door?
There are other courses available such as MSCA/MSCE, Comptia A+ and Network +
Any opionions on these ?
Thanks for any help !
Im in very bad need of a career change , place and field Im working in at the moment is on the way down with no change visible in the near future
I am returning to college to be re-educated in the hope of getting an entry level job in IT
The course I am looking at doing is for the Cisco CCNA qualification
Would this be good enough for prospective employers to get me in the door?
There are other courses available such as MSCA/MSCE, Comptia A+ and Network +
Any opionions on these ?
Thanks for any help !
02 September 2010, 11:20 AM
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Hi there here is link for average salary etc.
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/ccna.do
I think CCNA is entry level of Cisco,but Cisco is leading company in networking.
I really i don't know but you will need experience,because without experience probably you get job,but not easy like other which have 5 years experience.
If you have time and money try other courses and get from other courses certificate.
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/ccna.do
I think CCNA is entry level of Cisco,but Cisco is leading company in networking.
I really i don't know but you will need experience,because without experience probably you get job,but not easy like other which have 5 years experience.
If you have time and money try other courses and get from other courses certificate.
02 September 2010, 11:35 AM
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Jura, I hope you don't talk the way you type 
Networking is a black art. Coding is pretty simple, but as jura 'says' you'll need some sort of foot in the door to stand above and apart from other candidates.
Networking is a black art. Coding is pretty simple, but as jura 'says' you'll need some sort of foot in the door to stand above and apart from other candidates.
02 September 2010, 11:48 AM
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I'm talking from my own experience,i work in Czech Republic for Cisco almost 6 year(amazing opportunity for everyone) ,after this i work for Sun Microsystems several months,but this job was just nightmare...
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02 September 2010, 10:47 PM
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A CCNA is not entry level, it is 2nd tier.
All I can say is, search the job market right now and choose wisely when you come to choosing your specialty and where it will lead you.
A fundamental qualification, I would assume, would be needed, unless you fully appreciate the Cisco career path, I never and as such most of my Cisco quals are void in the grand scheme of things (3 year retakes at same or higher level)
All I can say is, search the job market right now and choose wisely when you come to choosing your specialty and where it will lead you.
A fundamental qualification, I would assume, would be needed, unless you fully appreciate the Cisco career path, I never and as such most of my Cisco quals are void in the grand scheme of things (3 year retakes at same or higher level)
03 September 2010, 10:55 PM
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Hi mate, your in Ireland aren't you? Loads of near shore setups out there, our company has done a lot of near shoring to there and created loads of jobs. I'd say a lot of the guys that I met initially when our jobs were going out there (well the BAU aspect anyway leaving us purely project based) weren't that technical but soon became technical with the huge investment in training they got.
Check out the market with just how many jobs are advertised and compare between different areas such as desktop support, wintel server support, networking, telecoms, unix support (weirdos stay away from them ) and see what the rates are like and what the requirements for the jobs are.
I started in IT at heldesk level with very little experience, got myself to desktop support after 6 months, did that for 6-7 years from small companies to huge investment banks and now been doing wintel server support/projects for 3+ years now. I only have MCSA and never got round to completing it to MCSE so qualifications aren't everything although in networking it's more important.
Check out the market with just how many jobs are advertised and compare between different areas such as desktop support, wintel server support, networking, telecoms, unix support (weirdos stay away from them
) and see what the rates are like and what the requirements for the jobs are.I started in IT at heldesk level with very little experience, got myself to desktop support after 6 months, did that for 6-7 years from small companies to huge investment banks and now been doing wintel server support/projects for 3+ years now. I only have MCSA and never got round to completing it to MCSE so qualifications aren't everything although in networking it's more important.
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When people ask what I do for a job Im tempted to say IT but stop myself as its such a broad category. But if you say "telecoms and wide area networking" you get a blank face back lol.
CCNA is still seen as entry level in the industry. Yes Cisco have now allowed you to break it up and do it in two parts via the CCENT but that doesnt really change anything.
Like most things certification wise it doesnt mean your any good but can get you noticed in terms of CV and therefore hopefully an interview. I have seen plenty of CCNPs who are hopeless even after a couple of years in a relevant role. Some people just seem incapable of understanding networking. On the flipside Ive had former car mechanics come through and pick it up like they were born to do it.
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CCNA is still seen as entry level in the industry. Yes Cisco have now allowed you to break it up and do it in two parts via the CCENT but that doesnt really change anything.
Like most things certification wise it doesnt mean your any good but can get you noticed in terms of CV and therefore hopefully an interview. I have seen plenty of CCNPs who are hopeless even after a couple of years in a relevant role. Some people just seem incapable of understanding networking. On the flipside Ive had former car mechanics come through and pick it up like they were born to do it.
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As for effort it depends on the person as I know some who passed in less than a year from starting lab studies and others whove taken several years and several attempts + a lot of wonga.
£40k is bare minimum for a CCIE unless its just a book worm with no real industry experience to back it up. Weve just had a recent CCIE leave and he was running via our internal scheme = paid for but sign up for 2 yrs or pay back costs at a rolling rate. He quickly got a new role outside of London which was lucrative enough to make him not be worried about paying his costs back.
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