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I need a laptop to handle home stuff and some light (12 year old) gaming

I was thinking about a Dell but my new desktop is HP

How do HP score on the laptop front ?

HP DV9646EM Laptop - Buy cheap HP laptops including the HP DV9646EM at PC World.

Cheers

Shaun

swiss scooby

Hi Shaun, if we are talking Notebook market shares, the 3rd quarter 2007 market share results can be seen here:
Acer, After Acquisitions, Passes Dell in Notebook Market Share - IT Channel - IT Channel News by CRN and VARBusiness
In short they are:
21.4 % HP
16.2 % Acer
13.8 % Dell
9.1 % Toshiba
8.9 % Lenovo
5.6 % Sony
4.7 % Fujitsu-Siemens
4.6% Apple
4.2 % Asus
I know that HP has increased it's share even further in its 4th quarter 2007 and is about twice as big as Dell.
Cheers, Daniel

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Thanks daniel

I must admit I havn't heard of Lenovo LOL

It's not quite the info I wanted, maybe I worded the original post badly........I guess I wanted to say do I buy HP or Dell

Cheers

Shaun

ScoobyDriverWannabe

HP

swiss scooby

HP

BlkKnight

Gaming > dell
Officey stuff Dell or HP

wwp8

lenovo is very popular with businesses

SwissTony

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LENOVO is the offshoot of IBM after they sold their desktop market.

on the subject of HP or Dell, HP everytime

Luminous

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why HP over Dell?

Feel of the keyboard, build quality? Cannot be much difference in speed

Skoobie Dhu

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HP - bought one 2 weeks ago from HP online. They usually have an offer of the week - this is the one we bought.

HP Media Center G6032EA Notebook PC (GZ974EA#ABU) specifications - HP Home & Home Office products

Register with HP for a further £40 off and buy through quidco for another 5% cashback - ended up £345 delivered or thereabouts.

SwissTony

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cos Dell's support sucks big time, the overall user experience of the hardware on HP seems to be better. There is little to compare them on specs and price wise, Dell wins hands down, but HP just seems to have a better all round look and feel, support, warranty etc over Dell. Just my opinion of course and the fact that we havent used or recommended them to any of our clients in over 15 years might have some influence

pimmo2000

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In my vast vast lack of experience, Dell are the better make

Wish

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We have a dell and its bloody amazing for the money.
I bought my wife one for xmas and have tonight been looking on the dell website for one myself.

Another vote for Dell

Midlife......

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Thanks for the reply's Looks like I'll get an HP......... not helped by todays fiasco at work with our Dell (Newcastle Uni / hospital must have thousands)

WE use HP / Compaq at work (I guess HP bought out Compaq) and the critters just keep on going LOL

Any ideas on good HP deals ??


Cheers

Shaun

wwp8

i was thinking if i buy a laptop i would choose the DELL XPS 1530dsgi yeah yeah the one we sell in pcw,
cos i did a performance check on it and It ROCKS
not seen any HP that i'm impressed with ...Yet

swiss scooby

I can only speak for the HP business notebooks not consumer. Here are a couple of short clips, showing aspects like Security, Ease of Use and Reliability of the latest generation of HP's business notebooks...Why buy an HP notebook (HP Public Sector) ... I specifically like the clips covering the reliability and security features. In our last customer presentation, my boss stood on one of these professional notebooks to show the strengths of the chassis. In addition to this demonstration we spilled water over the keyboard of a running notebook for over 45 minutes (as long as our presentation went) and it did not damage the notebook due to its superb laminated keyboard. The water is channeled to get out of the notebook through the optical drive and therefore doesn't get damaged. I am not going to bad mouth our competitors, therefore I am focusing on what HP notebooks can actually deliver.

Luminous

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cool, all nice info.

In the past we have always used Dell, but their service is getting lower over time. More and more we are passed to Indian call centres, which I find very irritating. They have even done this to us on our business account.

We've found the Dell laptops to be quite solid, but both of our last ones made annoying/irritating noises that are clearly audible in a quiet environment.

I've been considering giving HP a shot at my upcoming laptop, just to see what they are like. Will be a few months before purchase, so lots of time to look around still

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wwp8

Just checked

Dell XPS M1530dsgi Laptops - Cheap Dell Laptops.. Buy the Dell XPS M1530dsgi laptop at PC World.

It's £799 which is a bit above my budget LOL

Luminous...let me know if you find any good bargains


Cheers

Shaun

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This one is available for March delivey

HP G6065EA Notebook PC (KH948EA) specifications - HP Home & Home Office products

Does this look OK ?

Shaun

Rob_Impreza99

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How about this, its a good spec for the money and a 17 inch screen. The seller seems to be a trusted ebay user with good feedback.

DELL Vostro 1700 Laptop Core 2 Duo 2.0GHZ 3GB 160GB on eBay, also, Laptops, Computing (end time 07-Mar-08 19:18:58 GMT)

wwp8

i know but its silver and black, sleek, finger print recognition, 250gb hdd, NVIDIA 8600M GT
it literally pi55ed and shatted on the desktops core 2 duo 2.4s and also whooped the advent quad cores on the performance tests.......mmmmm

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See post 18

At £1 short of £800 I'd want it to change baby Dominic's nappy as well as vacuum the house 3 times a week plus clean out the fish tank LOL

Shaun

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Rob

I've gone off buying from e-bay....

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...ebay-item.html


Shaun

Rob_Impreza99

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Shaun, the difference between that ebay user that i posted about who was asking for an £850 postal order and the one i have posted in the link above is that the user i highlighted only had an 11 rated feedback with one bad rating already and was asking for an £850 postal order, the seller in the link i posted above has the following well respected user rating which is 3002 ebay deals and a 99.6% positive feedback.

Seller: handbag71( 3002)
Feedback: 99.6% Positive

Midlife......

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Rob..do you mean he has sold 3002 items on e-bay !! Blimey

Shaun

Rob_Impreza99

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Yeh mate, he has sold 3002 items currently on ebay and a 99.6% rating on their feedback is excellent and would give you a lot of confidence as a buyer.

Also if you look at the listing he provides his business VAT number, you only have to click on his rating number to view the amount of happy customers that have bought laptops from him.

Rob_Impreza99

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Shaun

Check out this one i have just built on the Dell website for you for just £539 + VAT, its a lot a lot of spec including a T8300 Core Duo processor which is very fast, a Nvidia GeForce 8600 graphics card, 250GB Hard Drive over 3GB of RAM and its a 17 inch screen. With Dell you can build your own spec and change it to how you want.

On the link just change the graphics card to the 256 MB Nvidia GeForce® 8600M GT and you will see the price change at the top right to £539 + VAT which is a cracking deal for all that.

Its a better spec than what the guy on Ebay is offering for similar money.

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System


Components
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T8300 (2.40 GHz, 3 MB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista® Business - English
1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected
17.0" Widescreen WXGA+ (1440x900) TFT Display
Matte Jet Black with 2.0 mega pixel camera
3072MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM (1x1024 + 1x2048 MB)
250GB (5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive
256MB nVidia® GeForce® 8600M GT
Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive including Software
Primary 6-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (56 WHr)
Services & Software
Declined CompleteCare
No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English
Accessories
Microsoft® Office 2007 Basic - English
No Carry Case
No Bluetooth Upgrade
Intel® Pro Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Mini-Card - Europe
Also Includes
N0317009
Vostro Laptop Order - UK
English Documentation with English/Irish Power Cord
Resource CD - contains Diagnostics and Drivers
90W AC Adapter
56.6k V.92 Capable Internal Modem & Adapter - UK
Internal Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day
Dell Internet Order.
Free upgrade to Office Basic

wwp8

or sticking to a 15.4" £489 + vat

however compared to the xps i love, the case is shat, it has no fingerprint security, and it also does not have wireless N.

faster processor and bigger HDD though

Components
BASE Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T8300 (2.40 GHz, 3 MB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Business - English edit
SUPPORT SERVICES 1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected edit
LCD 15.4" Wide Screen WXGA+ (1440 x 900) Display with TrueLife™ edit
INTEGRATED WEBCAM Matte Jet Black with 2.0 mega pixel camera edit
MEMORY 3072MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM (1x1024 + 1x2048 MB) edit
HARD DRIVE 320 GB (5.400rpm) SATA Hard Drive edit
GRAPHICS CARD 256MB nVidia® GeForce® 8600M GT edit
OPTICAL DRIVE Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive edit
PRIMARY BATTERY Primary 6-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (56 WHr) edit
Services & Software
MOBILITY Declined CompleteCare edit
SECURITY SOFTWARE No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English edit
Accessories
MICROSOFT SOFTWARE Microsoft® Works 9.0 - English edit
CARRY CASES No Carry Case edit
BLUETOOTH No Bluetooth Upgrade edit
WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY Intel® Pro Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Mini-Card - Europe edit
Also included with your system
Gedis Bundle Reference N0315021
Order Information Vostro Laptop Order - UK
Shipping Documents English Documentation with English Power Cord
Dell System Media Kit Resource CD - contains Diagnostics and Drivers
Power Supply 90W AC Adapter
Modem 56.6k V.92 Capable Internal Modem & Adapter - UK
Keyboard Internal Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Standard Warranty 1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day
Online Promotion Option for GEDIS Configs Dell Internet Order.

Sonic'

I have had HP's & Compaq's and Dells both for work and home

The last couple of HPs I have had one of them was an NX6000 which was a really good laptop never faltered once in the 2 years I threw it round everywhere

I currently have a new HP 6715b AMD Turion 64x2 running Vista 64 bit Ultimate with 4Gb Ram I can run 3 or vmware machines inside it and it still runs great (thats Windows 2003 server 32bit as a domain controller, windows 2003 server 64 bit with Exchange 2007, XP Pro 32 bit, MAC OSx86 Tiger, and Linux XP Desktop) only time it slows down a bit is hard disk access

I have of my own a Dell Latitude D610 currently running Mac OSX86 Tiger and Photoshop, Ive had it at least 3 years and its never been turned off and still works like it did the day I bought it, missus has got a Dell Latitude D600 which is sort of on its last legs, but has been thrown about a bit and about the same age as my Dell

Ive had older Dell's with work and they have both been fine, never skipping a beat either

I have been more than happy with both Dell & HP, and if I had to choose again now, I think I would actually buy a Macbook (which I am looking into doing)

Midlife......

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Thanks .... I have cut and pasted into word and printed out LOL...

I have looked at this macbook ...

Amazon.co.uk: Used and New: Apple MacBook white 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo/1GB/80GB/Combo/AP/BT