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Old 18 January 2008, 02:30 PM
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Arrow Proxy avoidance / Bypassing Websense

Can anyone recommend a good site so I can get around my works websense software - it's doing my nut in.

I used to use a site called something like tinyurl for proxity avoidance and then they caught on to that, I then used a website translation site (had option of translating from english to english!? which worked) but then they stopped that after a few weeks.

Any ideas?

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Old 18 January 2008, 03:38 PM
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Proxy.org - The Proxy Authority

works just put the address you want to use in the right hand box and pick random
Old 18 January 2008, 03:47 PM
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Good idea, but bear in mind that circumventing the company's firewall stuff, usually results in the minimum of a disciplinary.

The websense stuff is there for a reason (usually) - not having a go, but be mindful of the consequences......

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Old 18 January 2008, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gotmashed
Proxy.org - The Proxy Authority

works just put the address you want to use in the right hand box and pick random

that's blocked too
Old 18 January 2008, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
Good idea, but bear in mind that circumventing the company's firewall stuff, usually results in the minimum of a disciplinary.

The websense stuff is there for a reason (usually) - not having a go, but be mindful of the consequences......

Dan
true - but it's stupid here, blocks everything
Old 18 January 2008, 03:57 PM
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Stupid or not, you can still get fired for it...
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and the weekly reports show the attempts at proxy avoidance - there's nothing like waving a red flag to the sys admins than being SEEN to try and avoid the Proxy Server

(Oh, and sorry to say i am one of the people monitoring the Proxy server.... for the clients we provide IT support to)
Old 18 January 2008, 05:13 PM
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Forget it, unless your network people are daft, they'll have 99% of all proxy avoidance sites marked (especially if they get daily updates from the provider of their proxy hardware) and will quickly spot you using others (i.e. if all your traffic appears as tinyurl, they'll take a look at what it is, then block it, then book your disciplinary).
Old 18 January 2008, 05:53 PM
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If the sites you are trying to access are limiting your ability to do your job then go to your boss and state this, asking if he'd have a word with IT and open up those sites to you. If the sites are not limiting your ability to do your job then as others have said, I'd seriously consider NOT trying to bypass what is in place to stop you from visiting unauthorized sites as it will get you into hot water.
Old 18 January 2008, 06:03 PM
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Ask a school kid, they *ALL* know how to get round the systems in place
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"proxy avoidance" is one of the terms that results in people where I am being escorted from the building by security and having their things sent to them at home.
People who steal get hearings and warnings, PA is bye bye.

I would never advocate it but you can use google and when presented with search results, click "cached", get's served from google. Not the real thing but will get you by.

BUT... if your company clamp down that tight, they're obviously serious about it. I wouldn't.
Old 18 January 2008, 08:25 PM
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Free school proxy - Free proxy for school every day!!

This is what a lot of the kids use, and its a difficult task keeping on top of it
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I used to VPN/Virtual Desktop through a PC at home and tunnel out that way - mind you I have a static IP address, not sure if this would work with something like DNSalias + dynamic IP address though.

Thankfully I no longer work at that place and have a much more understanding IT Manager now!
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There are many ways of checking for remote access to home pc's etc, and quite a few companies check for these now too
Old 18 January 2008, 11:35 PM
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True, and surely we should be working when in the office and spending our time surfing! ;o)
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rather, NOT wasting our time surfing
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Okay, the company that I just started working for is a nightmare. Blocks anything interesting and also 'easy' get around sites like logmein.com and Remote Desktop ports.

The only thing I could do is set up CopSSH on my home PC using an unblocked port (21 was my preference) and then use Putty on the laptop and VNC to my home computer where I can surf happily. Yes there will be traffic on port 21 and any good admin who had a reason could see something was up.

Of course, the company that I worked for previously installed software on the desktop that recorded the screens so you could SEE what each person was doing. This was in call centers. I saw way too much cybersex, ebay and **** whilst they were talking to a customer about their bills ...

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We have used similar software, and one nice feature of it, is to be able to broadcast what is on the offending PC to every single PC on your network, for a spot of embarresment

Also being able to disconnect the internet with a single mouse click is pretty good too, especially when you are watching someones screen remotely, and they have absolutley no idea, and when it goes off, its difficult not to laugh when they tell you the internet isnt working
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I'm surprised that places that want to lockdown their network that tightly don't just use a whitelist for "normal" employees, while managers may have the right to approve additional addresses when needed for work purposes. Of course, any approved address would then be forwarded on to IT to double check.

Not sure if such software actually exists, but I would be amazed if it was not out there somewhere. The first few days you use it will be a pain, but there are not going to be that many sites people need legitimate business access too. Kind of like training a firewall in its high security mode really.
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I laughed at work a colleague was researching slavery ***** Wilberforce, etc...
and ended up viewing ****/perv stuff that the whitelist was supposed to prevent..... She nearly fainted, and then panic, run screaming from the building ! LOL Teachers eh !

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wow! thats one sheltered life she must have lead
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Originally Posted by HankScorpio
"proxy avoidance" is one of the terms that results in people where I am being escorted from the building by security and having their things sent to them at home.
People who steal get hearings and warnings, PA is bye bye.

I would never advocate it but you can use google and when presented with search results, click "cached", get's served from google. Not the real thing but will get you by.

BUT... if your company clamp down that tight, they're obviously serious about it. I wouldn't.

Yeah I use cached but images can be a problem (it's not p*rn I'm looking at by the way!)
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think i'll just quickly set up my own site - a 1 page html doc with frames - that'll do, all links loading in one frame held within the main frames page. Thought there might be a good site out there which hadn't been added to the hit list already. Creating your own all you'd had to do is rename the htm and away you go again
Old 21 January 2008, 05:09 PM
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As suggested - VNC / terminal services into another machine outside your network.
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Our lot just VPN home and then out onto the net.

Its a lot of arsing about, Just wait until you get home for a Tommy !
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Originally Posted by L33_WRX
think i'll just quickly set up my own site - a 1 page html doc with frames - that'll do, all links loading in one frame held within the main frames page. Thought there might be a good site out there which hadn't been added to the hit list already. Creating your own all you'd had to do is rename the htm and away you go again
That won't work because your IT dept will see a load of connections to your domain, take a look at what you're viewing and either lock it down or send you for a disciplinary. Or both.
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
That won't work because your IT dept will see a load of connections to your domain, take a look at what you're viewing and either lock it down or send you for a disciplinary. Or both.
if it's a site, one page job with no links back to me in anyway how was I to know I shouln't be using it. If it's not blocked and not obviously something you shouldn't be looking at I think they would struggle to get you on that. Plus if they did trace it and shut it down (like they did with my language translation site workaround after months) then all you do is rename the htm to something else.

PS your not my boss are you
Old 22 January 2008, 10:11 PM
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Perhaps it's me, but surely something must be sinking in that with ALL of these IT people (I don't include myself), they *might* have a clue about what's allowed and what's not.

Let's look at the basics - you are trying to circumnavigate your company's IT security. Something that the politest of advice has told you, will result in you being in very hot water.

What isn't sinking in?

IF it is THAT important, why not have a chat with your IT manager and find out why you can't access the site that you want to?

My IT manager is pretty good - he'll respond to reasoned arguement etc If there's a justifiable reason for allowing URL, most IT people will be happy to help. After all, websense is a bog-standard blocking package. It doesn't know what should be let through etc... blah blah blah.....

Just an observation

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You know, my old company did a check over 3 months on the top websites visited by staff during working hours ( around 20 or so staff in the office)

I got asked what I thought were the top 3, so I gave him Google, Microsoft and Novell ,

Google was our default home page

I was so wrong, Novell was about 5th on the list, Google was 4th, and Microsoft was about 10th

Number one was ebay followed by argos, they didnt have rules then

At the place I work at now, we have facebook and myspace blocked along with MSN, and we have been told anyone circumventing those sites will be disciplined

So WE have been warned
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Hi all I am 16 pretty smart for my age especially with computers one problem that I have found with all of the Proxy Blockers is the same on everyone that is online the sites for example my school server blocks all "Proxy Blockers" the name its blocking that is why i cannot get access to any of the sites on my school website the only thing i can say is to the Creators


Please stop being so stupid when creating these Proxy blockers you need to give people the name of the site spread it around and have them pass it on but not able to search for it on Google with the word proxy blocker that's all i can really say to you's

thank you


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