SideShowBob

Now that both consoles have been out for a while, how do they both shape up?
I know the PS3 has been slated since it's arrival, but do its Blu Ray capabilities straight out the box plus it's more powerful hardware bits make it the console of choice now.

XBOX almost seems old now, whereas PS3 seems like the latest and slickest, but I havent tried either for any period of time. PS3 seems like it has the hardware in place to develope a lot further than perhaps the XBOX, so might be around longer, althou XBOX has Halo 3 which PS3 will never have.

An XBOX 360 Elite (with HD DVD player) is £299 from Play (120GB HDD too), the PS3 with 40GB HDD is also £299. Not sure how much Id use the HDD thou, so it's not the major consideration.

Neanderthal

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Simple, if you want to play games, get a 360, if you're into watching movies, get the Blu-ray player, sorry I mean the PS3
Things will change eventually, but at the moment I don't think it's worth having the PS3 over the 360.
Also bare in mind that the £299 PS3 WILL NOT play any PS2 games as they've removed the backwards compatibility from it.

Dieseldog

I'm wondering the same, but the games still appear better with the 360 - Forza2, PGR4, Halo etc. Only game I'm interested in on the PS3 is Gran Turismo and that will probably be this time next year.

I'm looking for an Elite but everywhere's sold out with no deliveries coming in - the guy in Game suggested it's because they're changing to the new processor (or something), so sorting the 360 issues. Anyone concur / know different?

PeteBrant

You should own both. It's the only way forward. If you don't you are missing out. Simple as that, really.

Thankfully we live in a world where once you buy one or the other, it's not against the law to buy the other one too.

I have both, and I pity you poor foo's who for whatever ridiculous reason are anti Sony/MS

Iain Young

Missing out on what exactly?

rik1471

Folding@Home and Blu-ray's. Of course.

SideShowBob

A life?

I use a console for a few hours on a weekend, no way I can justify over £700 for them, then add the games, you're probably near £1000!!!! just to play games!!
I can stomach about £300 to £400, actually looking at an XBOX Premium with Halo for £270!! that is good value, how do you get it to play HD disks though?

Mr.Manchester

Sony suck, buy a 360.

PeteBrant

Missing out on games exclusive to either system.

They both have must own titles, Warhawk, Halo3, PGr4, Motorstorm etc etc obviously that goes more for 360 at the moment, but the next couple of months are quite big for PS3 releases.

If I had to pick one at the moment, I would go 360, but, you know, I don't have to choose at all.

Iain Young

I've not seen anything "big" coming out for the PS3 anytime soon that's interested me. What titles are you referring to (I'm thinking I may have missed something)?

I've played Motorstorm, Resistance, and Warhawk, and got bored with all of them very quickly. Average at best, and certainly not worth buying a console for, (which is why I've still not got one - don't see the point).

Dieseldog

... so any truth in the next batch of Elites coming with new chip to sort the 360 issues?

SideShowBob

I heard even the new Premiums have this new chip.

Iain Young

All the range will have them. Whether you get one or not depends on whether the old stock has cleared from the warehouses yet or not...

bob269

With the HD Player, you can get it around £70-80 if you shop around.

Mr.Manchester

Pete, you seem to be more interested in bragging about owning both consoles more than the content you can get for them.

I own 2x 360 Premiums, both being run on Samsung 40" LCD's with over 50 games, but im sure nobody cares, see where im going with this?

Lets face it, the PS3 has been a failure from the start, it was fantastic to see these idiots who pre-order 10 consoles in order to make a profit be completely stuck with them, on launch day you could walk in any game store and grab one off the shelf

lordretsudo

Interesting thread this, as I'm in exactly the same boat currently.

I was going to get myself a 360 as a treat for my 30th birthday, which was last week, but couldn't make my mind up whether to get the Elite or the Premium. I then started reading about the reliability issues ("3 red lights of death" or something?!), and also about the PS3 drop in price (backwards compatability not an issue for me as I never had a PS2), and am now completely unsure which to go for.

I like the look of Halo 3, and mainly like shoot 'em ups. A guy at work has a PS3 and reckons he got it just for some RPG that's supposedly the greatest game ever (can't recall what it was called).

Keep the opinions coming :-)

Edited to add that I have an expensive 42" plasma TV that currently has no HD devices attached to it, so it would be nice to feel I could actually justify it by using the TV's capability more with a console connected to it!

bob269

It should state something on the box next to the serial number, all 360's now also come with hdmi as standard.

Iain Young

That was probably Oblivion, and it's on the 360 as well as the PS3 (in fact it was on the 360 first )

RB5-Black

as for the 3 lights of death ..... It doesn't happen to everyone.


I have a launch day Premium and a new Elite 360 and no problems here. With one of the highest gamerscores on here you can see they both get well used.

Mr.Manchester

£299 with those games is a good deal, offer ends today!!!!

PeteBrant

Motorstorm blows every racer out of the water on 360, perhaps aside from PGR4/Forza2, but they are very different games - Theres nothing to compare it to really on 360.

Warhawk is about the best online console game out there at the moment.

As for whats coming, Ratchet & Clank (which despite the name are ace games) Haze is shaping up nicely, Tekken 6, plus obviously all the multi platform stuff between it an 360.

(my 360 is used soley for exclusives these days - Which, thanks to Halo3 and PGR4, is getting used rather alot at the moment.)

No, I'm just not a rabid fanvboy

That you are a rabid fanboy?

SideShowBob

Game and Play have good deals too, and they arent saying anything about an end date for these:
This is the best ive found yet: Xbox 360 Premium with FREE Halo 3 (Xbox 360) - free UK delivery at GAME.co.uk

£249 delivered and available already. Might be he old chip thou at that price?

STi wanna Subaru

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360 if you want to enjoy a wealth of great games now. Halo 3 is superb, Bioshock is fantastic, Forza 2 is great, PGR4 is great fun, Half Life Orange box is good value. More on the way as well.

PS3 will be fantastic but if you want to be enjoying the better choice of games now it's the 360.

PeteBrant

Can't argue with that.

Iain Young

We'll have to agree to disagree there. I found it very shallow, repetative, and it got boring very quickly.

Ok for short bursts, but it's not worth buying a console for.

So the only exclusive games are Haze and Tekken 6. Hardly a healthy run up to Christmas is it. Haze is just another FPS. Pretty, but nothing we haven't seen before over and over again. Tekken 6 - yet another shallow sequel. Can't see that I'm missing out on anything there...

I've read in a large number of places that a lot of the multi-platform games actually are looking and playing better on the 360 than on the PS3, so I can't imagine why I'd choose the PS3 over the 360 at the moment.

Glad you like it, but I'm glad I haven't wasted any money on it (yet )

PeteBrant

It's purely a reliability thing. I don't trust my 360 not to **** up in the next 3 months. I decided that I will only do 360 for exclusives, and everything else will be on PS3.

Form what I have experienc epersonally, there is no difference at all in how MP stuff plays or looks, it's splitting hairs to call it one way or the other.
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GaryK

Well Ive been sitting on the fence for a while now.

I had been put off by the PS3s lack of launch titles and the fact that alot of titles were just re-hashes of older PS2 games that looked nicer. I know that has happened on the 360 as well but it does seem there are more decent titles.

Anyway I was pretty convinced about buying a 360, mainly because forza IMO is awesome. Ive played PGR3 and thought it was dire, that and sega gt racing on the original xbox are probably the worst driving games I have ever played. I'm not that excited by GT5 either, I got bored of GT4 and played TOCA 3 much more because of the variety, and for me, the inclusion of *real* race circuits - as opposed to special stage 5!

So I spent some time round a friends house and he has thrown the cat amongst the pigeons. Now his opinions (which you may or may not agree) are as follows;
Blu-ray - ok no-one knows the winner of the format wars but if you add the cost of HD-DVD to the xbox 360 then prices arent that different. His view was that as HDDVD can store 30GB and blu-ray 50GB allegedly some film studios recording in HD + extras are struggling to fit content on a single HDDVD.

DNLA (I think?) - you can just add a network attached storage device which is a DNLA server and stream media content to the PS3 out of the box. At the moment PS3 doesnt decode Divx but that will change (so I am told).

Longetivity - being a technically better machine he feels theres more life in it than the 360, I think titles make the console myself.

So given that I have a large collection of PS2 games and was looking at the compatibility aspect it may be I go the PS3 route.

Gary

Neanderthal

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Just don't buy the £299 version Gary as it won't play your old games!

bob269

PGR3 is coming up to 2yrs old, try pgr4.

Supposedly by this christmas there will be triple layer HD-DVD holding around 80gigs, but as you say still too early to pass judgement on a format winner.

Iain Young

They are dropping backwards compatibility from all the versions of the console. So once the current stock of 60gb models (which are also being phased out) is exchausted, that's the end of that.