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Old 17 July 2007, 08:45 AM
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Thumbs up SONY bites back .....

PS3's with 3 Games and 60Gb HDD - £399

Now that all the XBOX360's are being returned as they are faulty, it seems the big guns have turned and fired - game over XBOX??

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStatio...tml?P36=5S596J
Old 17 July 2007, 08:46 AM
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i thought MS had dropped the price of the 360 to compensate?
Old 17 July 2007, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
i thought MS had dropped the price of the 360 to compensate?
It's no good selling duff machines - for any price!!
Old 17 July 2007, 09:01 AM
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Sony will bite back when they have a comparable games line up. then and only then will they have a product to compete as a games console. They have a decent Blue-Ray player there it seems but doesn't bother me as I've never even bought a DVD in my life.
Old 17 July 2007, 09:08 AM
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The best Sony can hope for is a market lead over MS some time in the next 18 months or so. Nintendo are out of sight for the short to medium term.

Bear in mind that Sony will have gone from 70% market share, to less than 50% in one generation - Now that doesn't necessarily mean they will have sold less machines, because Wii is selling to people that have never bought a console before, but, they have lost ground to MS and lost ground to Nintendo.

As a lot of people predicted, the console war will be a level playing field between MS and Sony, with Sony perhaps maintaining a slight lead, with Nintendo out in front by a mile. (although if Ninty persist in coming up with things like WiiFit they are going to lose the hardcore)

It's all good, monopolies are bad for the consumer - competition is what we need to drive down prices, of games as well as hardware.
Old 17 July 2007, 09:10 AM
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both are crap.
Old 17 July 2007, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jjones
both are crap.
Really? And did you come to that conclusion?
Old 17 July 2007, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Really? And did you come to that conclusion?
through ownership of a 360 and a friend owning a ps3. my opinion and if you don't like it that's your problem not mine.
Old 17 July 2007, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jjones
through ownership of a 360 and a friend owning a ps3. my opinion and if you don't like it that's your problem not mine.
Flawed in some areas, but crap?
Like to see you make a games console!
Old 17 July 2007, 09:30 AM
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Pete what games do you have for your PS3?
Old 17 July 2007, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Pete what games do you have for your PS3?
None, because I haven't bought one.... yet

Own quite a few titles for my 360 and and few for my Wii. Am waiting for the PS3 to come down in price/little big planet to be released, whichever comes first.
Old 17 July 2007, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
None, because I haven't bought one.... yet

Own quite a few titles for my 360 and and few for my Wii. Am waiting for the PS3 to come down in price/little big planet to be released, whichever comes first.
Thanks Pete....

and the other Pete?
Old 17 July 2007, 09:37 AM
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Sony are the Mogadon of consumer electronics..
Old 17 July 2007, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Thanks Pete....

and the other Pete?
I just came back to the thread to edit my post to say "You probably meant the other Pete , didn't you"
Old 17 July 2007, 09:44 AM
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The only things wrong with the PS3 is the lack of games, and Sonys arogance to their customers.
Sure the 360 has had reliablility issues, but MS is addressing these to the sum of $1billion.
I had my first go on a PS3 at the weekend. Played F1, Motorstorm, Fight Night 3 and GT4 HD. F1 - great gfx but the lack of rumble on the controller really disengages you from the action on screen. Motorstorm - initially very very impressed with it yet the more races you do the more you realise how limited it is. FN3 - exactly the same as the 360 version (maybe a few extra boxers). GT4 HD - Good gfx but after playing Forza 2 on the 360 you really realise how limited the physics and the 'driving in a tunnel' feeling GT4 has.

As a blueray player though, can't fault it. Oh and it's whisper quiet compared to the 360!

£399 for the package is ok value, but without the catalogue of games to play on it, I still don't think it's worth having one.....yet.
Incidently that exact same package from Play was £525 when the PS3 was released, I know cause I had one on pre-order.
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Why did sony drop the 'rumble' feature on the controller?
Old 17 July 2007, 10:22 AM
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Me got a 360 and the bloody thing broke down this weekend but going stright back to shop and being swapped for a new one so no problems there.

forza 2 is ace along with gears and quite a few other good games, ps3 dont have nowhere near as many decent games.

currently playing the darkness on 360 with quite a few big titles only months away i cant wait.

GTA4
Halo3
Unreal 3

the futures bright the futures 360 :P

can anyone answer me this question?

with the hd-dvd and blueray players being on both machines do u have to have a tv with a HDMI connection for it too work proper? i have a 42" plasma that i use composite rgb cables for.
Old 17 July 2007, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Why did sony drop the 'rumble' feature on the controller?
said it interfered with the SIXAXIS controllers that come with the PS3 which is bollox as they're now making them with it having come to an out of court settlement with the company that designed the rumble technology.
Old 17 July 2007, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Why did sony drop the 'rumble' feature on the controller?
The Nation Project :: View topic - Maybe Rumble function is NOT so last gen, eh Sony?

The long-lasting suit between Sony Computer Entertainment and force feedback technology firm Immersion has finally been settled, and the two companies have already announced a new agreement to work on vibration capabilities
"We are pleased to have put this litigation behind us," said Immersion CEO Victor Viegas in a statement. "Our new business agreement with Sony Computer Entertainment is specifically intended to enable advanced vibration capability for the benefit of the PlayStation gaming community. We are happy to provide our technology in this regard and hope to make technical proposals very soon with respect to use of our technology in the PlayStation products."

Immersion will be awarded damages, interest, pre-judgment interest, costs and "will retain compulsory licensing fees ordered by the District Court which were already paid."

Last year, the court had ordered Sony to pay Immersion over $90 million, which includes interest, for infringing on force feedback patents for game controllers.

The specific financial terms of the settlement were not disclosed by the companies, although BusinessWeek reports that under the agreement, Immersion will receive 12 quarterly payments of $1.875 million beginning in March totaling $22.5 million, along with fees and royalties. Immersion has agreed not to sue Sony in the future.

Sony said that the litigation will have "no material impact" on its previously-announced earnings forecast.

This new agreement between the companies also gives SCE "certain new rights with respect to Immersion's patent portfolio."

SCE president Kaz Hirai said, "We look forward to exploring with Immersion exciting new ways to bring the largest and best range of gameplay experiences to our customers. We are very excited about our new partnership with Immersion and the potential for new and innovative products incorporating their technologies."

In the past, Hirai and other Sony execs had downplayed the importance of the rumble feature in its PS3 controller, Sixaxis. Hirai had previously called the exclusion of rumble a "strategic" move to save customers money. Prior to that, Sony had claimed that combining vibration and the motion-sensing features of the Sixaxis wasn't technically feasible.
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Originally Posted by phil_wrx
Me got a 360 and the bloody thing broke down this weekend but going stright back to shop and being swapped for a new one so no problems there.

forza 2 is ace along with gears and quite a few other good games, ps3 dont have nowhere near as many decent games.

currently playing the darkness on 360 with quite a few big titles only months away i cant wait.

GTA4
Halo3
Unreal 3

the futures bright the futures 360 :P

can anyone answer me this question?

with the hd-dvd and blueray players being on both machines do u have to have a tv with a HDMI connection for it too work proper? i have a 42" plasma that i use composite rgb cables for.

You mean component leads. And they aren't RGB

ANyway, with regards to BluRay and HD-DVD you can use component leads - ALthough for best results you want to use HDMI (this is particularly true if you wan to to display @ 1080p as the vast majority of sets won't display this resolution under component (analog) connecitons
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Unreal 3 was announced as being PS3 and Pc only i think
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
You mean component leads. And they aren't RGB

ANyway, with regards to BluRay and HD-DVD you can use component leads - ALthough for best results you want to use HDMI (this is particularly true if you wan to to display @ 1080p as the vast majority of sets won't display this resolution under component (analog) connecitons
Knew someone would pull me on the cables

but i thought there was some kind of hdcp encryption for security?


oh and unreal is delayed on 360 till early 2008 and sony think they are tops . . halo3 anyone
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Originally Posted by myblackwrx
Unreal 3 was announced as being PS3 and Pc only i think
Amazon.co.uk: Unreal Tournament 3 (Xbox 360): PC & Video Games

get halo 3 and unreal 3 for 79.99

and mass effect is due soon
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I stand corrected, but if Sony think they are tops although both games are FPSs Halo 3 will/should give good deathmatch and (i pray) a good storyline whereas Unreal 3 is just deathmatch.
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Originally Posted by phil_wrx
Amazon.co.uk: Unreal Tournament 3 (Xbox 360): PC & Video Games

get halo 3 and unreal 3 for 79.99

and mass effect is due soon
Bioshock is sooner though
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So between a PS3, 360 and Wii, which is the one to get.
I only really play driving/racing games and have a ps2 at present.
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Gears is on U3 engine.

Bioshock looks like it may have been Console-ified to appeal to console owners.

Is Cyrisis scheduled for console release?

Personally I prefer my PC but have considered a 360 for the bedroom as a media output from our PC downstairs.
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
So between a PS3, 360 and Wii, which is the one to get.
I only really play driving/racing games and have a ps2 at present.
Anybody who says other than a 360 at the moment is giving you bad advice. Has the best car\racing games going currently and for the foreseeable future.
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I am quite happy with my very fast computer and a wheel and pedals for my driving games!

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