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Old 05 January 2007, 01:07 PM
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Question Dual Core Processors

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One for the techies I think.

I have two machines, a laptop and a desktop. Both have dual core processors. I run some pretty processor intensive applications and I have noticed that one processor will be at 100% and the other at practically nothing. Seems a waste to me, I never do two things at once, so am I missing something or is it a gimick?

Ideally I would like them both to go to work at the same time thereofore processing quicker.

Possible?
Old 05 January 2007, 03:35 PM
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Thanks Dave for an excellent response.

Makes sense. I guess more software will be written to take advantage of multi-cores as they become more common.
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the thing is though will it really catch on? I would say there isnt a great deal of multicore software out there at the moment, and with quad core around the corner and then I imagine octacore (8 core name possibly?) probably not far behind, wont software just become mega bloated to be compatabile across all the cores if you know what I mean as surely there will be different code paths to take depending on how many cores the processor has.
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it was a good response by the way
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
wont software just become mega bloated to be compatabile across all the cores if you know what I mean as surely there will be different code paths to take depending on how many cores the processor has.
In theory, if you code your software correctly, it should just be able cope with however many cores you have. It'll just start new threads for each core. The more cores you have, the faster it will finish.

This sort of thing is pretty easy to control in software without bloating the code.
Old 05 January 2007, 04:54 PM
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Although you can't parallelise everything but it should certainly help in those parts of the code that are processor intensive (once code is written to be multi-threaded).

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Old 05 January 2007, 05:11 PM
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True, I was really taking about the bits of code that can be written that way. Once you've got it running on 2 threads, it's not really much effort to get it running on 8
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Sorry, was in pedantic mode after finishing a rather large code review for someone
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The only test i've done to compare SC vs DC is video encoding, wanted to see how much faster a DC was compared to my P4 3Ghz Prescott.

2Ghz DC vs 3Ghz SC
software optimized for DC
3GHz SC beat it by 30mins

granted theres a power efficiency (how much in reality i dont know) & 2Ghz doing the same work as a 3Ghz but in this instance it hasnt persuaded me theres a need to spash out on DC
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Of course it depends on what software you were using, and how efficiently it has been written.

Dual core machines will not run faster if the quality of the software is poor.

Editied to add...

Using Premiere Pro 2 on my AMD 4800+ dual core machine, a 1 hour video file encodes to dvd (mpeg) about 3-4 times faster than on my other machine (p4 2.5ghz).

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true so it just seems hype to me. also premiere btw.

you look at sites selling their pcs. they only sell the latest models but the basic value one is to me 'an all singing all dancing DC' yet they quote the usual bollox 'good enough if you just want to browse the internet & use word documents' a win98 P3 will do for that
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Yep it all depends on what you want to do with the machine. For video editing, 3d rending etc (i.e. processor intensive stuff) then dual core definitely helps a lot, but the majority of people simply don't need this power.
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maybe the prescott/sse3 is finally showing its potential
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so Dave how do you rate the Prescott? I know its got its problems (though i utilize it by keeping the take-away warm & providing the heat source for the underfloor heating ) but i think its great, certaining i can do encoding while playing FEAR nicely....

was it a prototype idea thats still been developed as a basis for the cores now or a bad idea intel rather forget?
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true so it just seems hype to me. also premiere btw.
It is on home desktop pc's but when you start using 64bit O/S's with multiple processors with decent apps it makes a big difference
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If you run apps like Maya or some of the CAD programs then DC will help you alot, for games.... its yet to be seen but as more and more programs are written for DC processors then they will take advantage of it, just in the same way that SC processors with hyperthreading didnt seem to do much until you had a program that utilised it.

Tony

PS, still running my 3.4 ht atm because I dont need anything quicker (yet )
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