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Old 03 October 2006, 07:50 PM
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Default how many mg is a streamed footie match?

forgive my crap definitions, just getting into this p2p/footie streaming stuff!

only asking as i'm on a capped monthly usage and was wondering how much a game would eat into my allowance?

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Old 04 October 2006, 12:21 AM
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if you want a 640x480 window @ 24fps, then you're looking at 887Kb/s
Old 04 October 2006, 06:28 AM
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nice one quality is a bit crap on a window that big, but if that's the most i'll use then happy days

Old 04 October 2006, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hoskib
nice one quality is a bit crap on a window that big, but if that's the most i'll use then happy days

Did you actually do the maths? spectrum48k said 887Kb/s. That's per second. A footy match will last a minimum of 5400 seconds which gives 4.7 GB! I've not tried this streaming stuff and I suspect they compress it a fair bit but I'd be surprised if a match is less than a couple of hundred MB with any sort of reasonable quality.
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The football streams are never going to be anywhere near 640x480 and certainly not 24fps.

One hour of video encoded at 300 kbit/s at a 320×240 resolution will be:

(3,600 s · 300 kbit/s) / 8,388.608 = 128.7 MB of storage

The maths:



Check the wikipedia for more info.
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Originally Posted by kernel
Did you actually do the maths? spectrum48k said 887Kb/s. That's per second. A footy match will last a minimum of 5400 seconds which gives 4.7 GB! I've not tried this streaming stuff and I suspect they compress it a fair bit but I'd be surprised if a match is less than a couple of hundred MB with any sort of reasonable quality.
figures based on 640 x 480 @ 24fps

wouldn't want to watch a tiny window and low frame rate for footy!

you can drop to do 60 Kb/s if you can put up with a tiny window and stuttering frame rate
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Originally Posted by spectrum48k
wouldn't want to watch a tiny window and low frame rate for footy!
I regularlly watch live games streamed and this IS the sort of resolution and bitrate used (quite low). Looks fine, but even they can stutter and buffer. These free streams are not 'high quality', but good enough to watch the game on

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Old 04 October 2006, 01:56 PM
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Agree with Dunk
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I don't bother with a little stuttering window - just can't do it.

I use a slingbox instead - allows me to watch the Sky footie anywhere around the house and when I'm away from home on business.

High bit rates, but much preferrable from my point of view.

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Thing is, most of these streamed games are not shown on any UK TV channels, thats the point. They're often on channels like Shanghai Sports & Guangdong.
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As Dunk says these are for games not on any Uk channels. I watched the United - Newcastle game last Sunday and one I had a good feed it was pretty much faultless. The quality is perfectly fine at full screen to watch. You can tell who is on the ball no problems. Some feed even have the Prem commentary
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DigitalAlb on Eutelsat 16East shows live footy saturday and sunday
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Don't you need an 80cm dish (motorised?) and a DigitalAlb subsciption for that though ?
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