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Old 20 June 2006, 01:26 PM
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Default My 360 died, is yours horizontal or vertical?

As the title says, my 360 died the other day and have now got it replaced at Game, although mine is in a well ventilated area it does get bloody hot, do you think it makes a difference if its laying down or upright ?
Ive seen an intercooler you can get that plugs onto the back of the 360 to aid cooling and this seems like a good idea to me, what do you think ?
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Mine horizontal in a fairly well ventilated TV stand. It's quite loud when a disc is in it and the @rse end does get quite warm. Only twice now have I had a problem where it couldnt read a disc for whatever reason M$ come up with.

But so far it's behaved quite well.
Old 20 June 2006, 01:33 PM
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horizontal when mine went tiiittts oop
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Horizontal when my first 2 broke.
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So do you think it would be better for the console if it was vertical ? so that more air can get around it ?
Old 20 June 2006, 01:54 PM
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If you're worried about the heat you could buy a cheap usb powered fan and plug it in the back of the 360 to suck out some of the heat.
Old 20 June 2006, 01:58 PM
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Is that a front mounted intercooler or a top mount.

Wot things comming to intecoolers for game consoles.

You would have thought they would have designed it better with its price tag.

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Gameplay have an intercooler that comes out on the 30th of this month that looks quite good.
Old 20 June 2006, 02:13 PM
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But do we really need to make them any noisier than they already are? (if thats possible )

Still, if it keeps it working, could be a good investment.
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Originally Posted by haroldhettaturbo
Is that a front mounted intercooler or a top mount.

Wot things comming to intecoolers for game consoles.

You would have thought they would have designed it better with its price tag.
£3000 laptops get ridiculously hot, the smaller and faster you make something the hotter it will run, you've got to strike a balance. Just think of the money you will save on heating bills in the winter
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I found a review somewhere about the intercooler and it says because the 360 is so noisy you will hardly notice the extra noise !
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The thing is i have owned just about every console since the old atari and never had any problems with anything before, even my ps2 that i got on launch day still works perfectly !
So so so so many stories about 360's clapping out, bit of a worry really.
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Mines been vertical since day 1 - no problems so far but did get a crack in my PGR disc...

...and a corrupted profile twice.
Old 20 June 2006, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by messiah
Mines been vertical since day 1 - no problems so far but did get a crack in my PGR disc...

...and a corrupted profile twice.
Apart from that, its worked like a dream then :-/
Old 20 June 2006, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaolin
The thing is i have owned just about every console since the old atari and never had any problems with anything before, even my ps2 that i got on launch day still works perfectly !
So so so so many stories about 360's clapping out, bit of a worry really.
As pointed out in a previous thread, the PS1 cd drive packed up after 2yrs resulting in a replacement laser or turning it upside down for it to read discs, the PS2 had no end of trouble with faulty dvd drives.

All in all the 360 is working great, it's just that the only press people see is negative points, after all you're not going to post of a forum "today I switched my 360 on and it worked great"
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Bob269 i totally disagree, i know loads of people with 360's and so many have had trouble, i was the one always laughing saying well mines ok......until last Friday ! They are poorly made, simple as that.
Old 20 June 2006, 03:00 PM
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Save judgement for after Sony's first couple of months trading and lets see if they have any problems.

One thing i did read, albeit it I may have read serveral articles and merged them in to 1 in my head ) is that IBM have developed a thinner layer (or who ever is currently manufacturing the next phase of 360's chips ) for the silicone in the cpu, which should mean less heat will be generated. This is also a cheaper process hence will help lowering the prices of the next revision of the 360 hardware.
Old 20 June 2006, 04:24 PM
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I have seen an unreal amount of "my 360 is broken" posts on here

My PS1/PS2/XBOX1 have worked with no problems for years, so its worrying to say the least, and people, please stop with the "Sony are best" "MS are best" arguments, its very boring

Its like a school yard argument sometimes in here with the MS and SOny fan boys bickering with each other, just give both machine a chance, the best will win out.

Me, i'm waiting to compare both machines before buying one!!
Old 20 June 2006, 04:40 PM
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I suppose at the end of the day, a "flawless" system is pretty hard to ask for. It *shouldn't* be but, then, given it's running M$ OS and that it's a new, very complicated piece of kit, invariably faults, corruptions and failures are bound to occur.

I've always been a bit wary of console that use CD/DVDs and can be used "standing up" - I was never comfortable with how the "discs" felt as they rested in the tray on their sides as opposed to a horizontal load. To me it just seemed more prone to problem/mishap as gravity is counteracting the desired effect of having the middle of the disc clamped in place by the drive's spinning mech - at least when you're "loading" the disc into the system - once it's in it should be fine..

But hey - that's just me. The guy who fuct up 6 PS1's in a row when he was "learning" how to solder mod chips back in 1996
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Originally Posted by Shaolin
Apart from that, its worked like a dream then :-/
besides the daily dashboard hangups - yes.
Old 20 June 2006, 05:15 PM
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Strange that. My dashboard has never locked up as far as I can remember. Is it a PGR realted thing? I played it for about a fortnight at launch, and haven't really touched it since (got bored with it) so perhaps I haven't exposed the bug...
Old 20 June 2006, 05:42 PM
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Mines horizontal.

If you *really are* having daily problems then why haven't you sent it back ?
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PGR has always ran fine for me, played it quite a lot
Old 20 June 2006, 06:02 PM
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I'd ring MS if I were you messiah. My 2nd xbox kept hanging all over the place, (no red lights or anything), which is why I rang them and they replaced it for me. The 3rd one has been working fine so far (touch wood)....
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Its only since the major update the other week - I can live it really and I cant be bothered ringing MS anyway - the support line is a joke, they accused me od deliberatly damaging a disc so I could replace it with a different game - WTF? I've already spoken to them about it anyway when I rang about my 2nd corrupted profile - the muppet didnt know there had been a dashboard update...

My dash hangs whatever the game is ever since the update. When I get a "??? is online" or "??? wants to play" I have to wait until the little blurb disappears off screen before I can bring the dashboard up. It also means I have to wait until the blurbs go before switching the dashboard off or it still hangs...

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If your xbox 360 is running hot, maybe this might help
Old 20 June 2006, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by messiah
Its only since the major update the other week - I can live it really and I cant be bothered ringing MS anyway - the support line is a joke, they accused me od deliberatly damaging a disc so I could replace it with a different game - WTF? I've already spoken to them about it anyway when I rang about my 2nd corrupted profile - the muppet didnt know there had been a dashboard update...

My dash hangs whatever the game is ever since the update. When I get a "??? is online" or "??? wants to play" I have to wait until the little blurb disappears off screen before I can bring the dashboard up. It also means I have to wait until the blurbs go before switching the dashboard off or it still hangs...
Email the support on the formums on www.xbox.com they replied to me within 10mins and gave me 500 free points, only had a small problem with registering my account but they were great.
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Originally Posted by Markus
If your xbox 360 is running hot, maybe this might help
It's worrying how close those metal joint connectors are to the components on the motherboard, one knock and kaboom.
Old 20 June 2006, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bob269
Save judgement for after Sony's first couple of months trading and lets see if they have any problems.

One thing i did read, albeit it I may have read serveral articles and merged them in to 1 in my head ) is that IBM have developed a thinner layer (or who ever is currently manufacturing the next phase of 360's chips ) for the silicone in the cpu, which should mean less heat will be generated. This is also a cheaper process hence will help lowering the prices of the next revision of the 360 hardware.
Good timming for a quote from MS to backup my post

According to Britxbox.co.uk, a source close to Microsoft has confirmed plans to cut the cost of Xbox 360 as the holidays roll around, and more importantly, just as Sony unleashes the PlayStation 3. The source told Britxbox that the price cut [core below £200 (currently £209), premium £220 (currently £279)] would be the result of a "new" and "cheaper to manufacture" version of Xbox 360, suggesting that the Xbox team is working to redesign elements of the chip set supplied by ATI and IBM to achieve more cost effective production.
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