Notices
Computer & Technology Related Post here for help and discussion of computing and related technology. Internet, TVs, phones, consoles, computers, tablets and any other gadgets.

pxe booting to a terminal server

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:57 PM
  #1  
WRX_Rich's Avatar
WRX_Rich
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,625
Likes: 0
From: Worcester
Default pxe booting to a terminal server

with ever tightening SLAs i was thinking if we have pc's with harddrive issues we could get the users to pxe boot to a terminal server

our users a fine imaging there own pc's using ris (pxe) so shouldn't be hasstle on that front

I don't want to be using Citrix

has anyone tried anything like this, any ideas
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:14 PM
  #2  
Kieran_Burns's Avatar
Kieran_Burns
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,208
Likes: 0
From: There on the stair
Default

it's just what we do - p.c. fails, go out pick it up - bring it back and image it.

You do need to consider a standard (and locked down) desktop environment as well
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:30 PM
  #3  
WRX_Rich's Avatar
WRX_Rich
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,625
Likes: 0
From: Worcester
Default

so if a harddrive fails you tell a user to pxe boot and they get to a windows terminal server

I have seen some linux examples but not ms

we have good links the only problem is we have 100mile + round trip to some sites which makes 1 day SLA (time to fix) hard to meet

if we could remotley tell the user to pxe boot to a TS it would buy us some time

Rich
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:40 PM
  #4  
David_Wallis's Avatar
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 1
From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Default

http://www.emboot.com/products_simplyRDP.htm

There are free dos rdp clients too.

You could change the boot preference order to boot hdd then pxe.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:53 PM
  #5  
WRX_Rich's Avatar
WRX_Rich
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,625
Likes: 0
From: Worcester
Default

looks good ... im on the look out for them free ones, nhs don't pay for nothing
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:33 PM
  #6  
David_Wallis's Avatar
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 1
From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Default

ill drop my mate a mail and see what we used
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:09 PM
  #7  
DrEvil's Avatar
DrEvil
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,384
Likes: 0
From: Surrey, UK
Default

Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
with ever tightening SLAs i was thinking if we have pc's with harddrive issues we could get the users to pxe boot to a terminal server

our users a fine imaging there own pc's using ris (pxe) so shouldn't be hasstle on that front

I don't want to be using Citrix

has anyone tried anything like this, any ideas
HP are currently pushing a funky solution for using DLs or BLs as virtual PCs - they've just implemented for one of the big corps (can't remember who) - if you have an HP account manager, have a chat with them - it certainly seemed to work well (we recently had this, amongst other things demo'd).

What I really liked was the ability to move a 'running' system to another virtual machine (on a.n.other system) without downtime.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:04 PM
  #8  
boomer's Avatar
boomer
Scooby Senior
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 5,763
Likes: 0
From: West Midlands
Default

Rich,

following on from our PMs 18 months ago - we might be able to help you PXE boot a RAM disk containing whatever OS you desire (or other potential solutions, depending on your actual problems and requirements).

Wouldn't be free though, but there has gotta be a few bob spare in the £12B overspend on NHS IT

Let us know if you are still interested!

mb
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 12:17 AM
  #9  
WRX_Rich's Avatar
WRX_Rich
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,625
Likes: 0
From: Worcester
Default

mate Im having to justifiy a hand full of usb mice at the moment the NHS is not a nice place to be in these times trust me

its like everything though if I can get cheap freeware in, then pull the service due to cost its not IT who are asking for the money which helps

sms
live chat
ms server2k3
mom
soon to be KB
VPN
etc etc etc all came in this way


still good to see whats on the market helps the googles searchs

bloomer if I moved from the NHS I would be on the phone asap but as long as they are still paying me I can't change my game plan

thanks for all the pointers guys
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:55 AM
  #10  
David_Wallis's Avatar
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 1
From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Default

Alex,

That sounds like VMware and VMotion.. We use it and its cool, you do need the disks on shared storage.

David
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:06 AM
  #11  
Ian Cook's Avatar
Ian Cook
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 5,485
Likes: 0
From: Northampton
Default

Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Alex,

That sounds like VMware and VMotion.. We use it and its cool, you do need the disks on shared storage.

David
It does indeed sound like it, i know HP are pushing VMWare at the moment, mind you so are we Keeps me in a job ! lol
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:47 AM
  #12  
David_Wallis's Avatar
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 1
From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Default

Ian, who do you work for?

Was it fujitsu?
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 12:08 PM
  #13  
Ian Cook's Avatar
Ian Cook
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 5,485
Likes: 0
From: Northampton
Default

Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Ian, who do you work for?

Was it fujitsu?
Nah i work for Basilica
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:07 PM
  #14  
David_Wallis's Avatar
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 1
From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Default

ARGH...

Had a run in with them probably still supplying ventura though..

They assembled one of the IBMx335's incorrectly then packaged it with more polysteryene (sp) ***** than I knew what to do with.. should have seen the mess!

David
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:41 PM
  #15  
DrEvil's Avatar
DrEvil
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,384
Likes: 0
From: Surrey, UK
Default

Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Alex,

That sounds like VMware and VMotion.. We use it and its cool, you do need the disks on shared storage.

David
Yep, sorry was having a off day yesterday, could blinkin' remember the product names. And yes, SAN etc... required.

Today ain't much better... but I'll leave it there...

PS. I've had to rule it out cos our SAN team won't let me use the brocade's HP supply and no NAS solution available for our use as yet... oh and it ain't cheap!
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:02 PM
  #16  
Ian Cook's Avatar
Ian Cook
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 5,485
Likes: 0
From: Northampton
Default

Originally Posted by David_Wallis
ARGH...

Had a run in with them probably still supplying ventura though..

They assembled one of the IBMx335's incorrectly then packaged it with more polysteryene (sp) ***** than I knew what to do with.. should have seen the mess!

David
What us ? We never supply servers wrapped in poly ***** (or bloody well shouldnt be) ! hope you kicked up a stink ! I would have done ! lol
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:44 PM
  #17  
David_Wallis's Avatar
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 1
From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Default

Ian,

I did..


Alex...

VMWare 3 supports NAS devices

I also think they have just dropped the ESX licence price

Stuff your san guys, buy a HP MSA1000 or MSA1500

David

Last edited by David_Wallis; Jun 7, 2006 at 07:49 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:50 PM
  #18  
David_Wallis's Avatar
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 1
From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Default

Also if its for the blades, cant you use a Cisco Switch in it?
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 12:41 AM
  #19  
DrEvil's Avatar
DrEvil
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,384
Likes: 0
From: Surrey, UK
Default

Yep - I'm just about to order a full spec enclosure withe BL25ps - minus the brocade. With the CISCO switches, so our COMMs group can look after that bit. As for NAS, same group looks after it, and like 'Grolsh' (SP!) - it isn't ready yet - LOL

Still, we'll see... tbh honest the more I use blades the more I dislike them - great space saver - huge pain in the *** - but thats IBM blades.....
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:37 AM
  #20  
David_Wallis's Avatar
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 1
From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Default

HP ones are supposed to be ok, not used em yet, but have heard hp are dropping the intel processors from them.

David
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:29 AM
  #21  
*Sonic*'s Avatar
*Sonic*
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 10,026
Likes: 15
From: R.I.P Piphead, at least you are home now :(
Default

HP Blades have been fine
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 01:49 PM
  #22  
suba's Avatar
suba
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 2,462
Likes: 0
Default

wow... ian, you still at basilica!

anyway... have you looked into Windows PE?

here's what i am doing....

VMWare ESX to run virtual desktop. users PCs are very bog standard and they connect to the virtual desktop for all their apps, etc. because it is over a WAN, i am using HP RGS as the remote control tool. it is FAST! hardly any delay in the screen refresh over the WAN!
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 03:08 PM
  #23  
David_Wallis's Avatar
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 1
From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Default

drop us a mail to davidwallis@gmail.com and ill forward the client on.

David
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
Nov 18, 2015 07:03 AM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
Oct 2, 2015 09:22 AM
RS_Matt
Lighting and Other Electrical
8
Sep 28, 2015 12:08 PM
Nick_Cat
Computer & Technology Related
2
Sep 26, 2015 08:00 AM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:30 PM.