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Old 06 February 2006, 11:11 PM
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Default 360 v PC

Was always a pc gamer and didnt like consoles but since getting an Xbox and latterley a 360 I really cannot see the point of ninja pc's, was having a debate with a pc zealot at work today, mainly cos it avoids doing any actual work but I quite enjoy it, its like a middle aged (well nearly) version of the C64 v Spectrum Jihad in school, I was a moderate Commodore owner but also later converted to Sinclair (both at the same time)

Apparently nothing will compete with a top end pc running two 500 quid graphics cards, no **** but whats the point, 1500 quid plus and does it really look any better than a 300 quid console ?

Is pc gaming going to be a dead duck.

Come on, bring it on, it it ill be like Alaistair Huges smacked me for Dissing the Dragon 32 the sad nobber, oh and saying he looked like Mel Smith didnt help either.

Yes, I have issues.
Old 06 February 2006, 11:25 PM
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The only advantage is that the pc is always uptodate (if you've got a bottomless pit of cash) where as the 360 is here for the next 5 years.

The new x1900 ati gfx features the same 48bit processing as the 360 however the 360 isnt hampered by system resources, so who knows.

Bottomline is the pc will always be better but if you define power per £ then obviously the 360 wins hands down
Old 07 February 2006, 12:04 AM
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Many PC gamers don't like the 1st person games on consoles, because they suck without the keyboard and mouse.

Complex games like flight sims and Warcraft are also much better suited to the PC.
Old 07 February 2006, 12:10 AM
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Not to mention the fact you can do so much more with a PC than gaming!
Old 07 February 2006, 12:57 AM
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Consoles will always win from a bang per buck point of view.
And of course, when they are brand new they look even better value for money.

As Kiwi said, FPS generally suck on consoles due to the limited controls.
Old 07 February 2006, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Not to mention the fact you can do so much more with a PC than gaming!
You can with a 360 too.

Not fussed either way, get both if you can, they work well together.
Old 07 February 2006, 09:43 AM
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Never had a prob with FPS on the Xbox is the controls are done well eg. Halo, Half Life etc.

Fact is some people are far too geeky and **** for their own good and thus will side with the PC.
Old 07 February 2006, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by G00ner
You can with a 360 too.
Like what?

If all you do is play games then a 360 is a good option, however a pc is so much more flexible. If I just wanted a games machine then I'd stick with the 360, however seeing as I use the pc for more than just gaming, I bought myself a ninja rig as well. Having a 360 and a ninja pc is definitely the way forward
Old 07 February 2006, 10:04 AM
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ok it all depends on the game u play, fps and racing games will always b domintaed by the console but the stratergy games and managerial games will always b owned by the pc

its down to individual game preferance

that shot this topic wide open didnt it lolz
Old 07 February 2006, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Never had a prob with FPS on the Xbox is the controls are done well eg. Halo, Half Life etc.
I've played more FPS games than most people have had hot dinners (well maybe not - but you get the idea), and can quite honestly say that not only do I find the mouse / keyboard combination far easier to control, but so far I found the games themselves to be of a higher quality than on the consoles.

I played Halo 1 through to the end (quite enjoyed that one), but never got very far into Halo2. I just got bored with it very quickly. I didn't know you could get half life on the consoles?

After playing the quality fps games on the pc (HL2, F.e.a.r etc), every one I've played on the consoles has felt inferior. Hopefully that might change with "Gears of war"...

Fact is some people are far too geeky and **** for their own good and thus will side with the PC.
Nothing to do with that. In fact it could be said that you are being geeky and **** about the consoles
Old 07 February 2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobie-shieldy
ok it all depends on the game u play, fps and racing games will always b domintaed by the console but the stratergy games and managerial games will always b owned by the pc
Actually the best racing game I've played so far is GT legends on the pc, and the best fps games have also been on the pc. So that blows your theory out of the water
Old 07 February 2006, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Iain Young
I've played more FPS games than most people have had hot dinners (well maybe not - but you get the idea), and can quite honestly say that not only do I find the mouse / keyboard combination far easier to control, but so far I found the games themselves to be of a higher quality than on the consoles.

I played Halo 1 through to the end (quite enjoyed that one), but never got very far into Halo2. I just got bored with it very quickly. I didn't know you could get half life on the consoles?

After playing the quality fps games on the pc (HL2, F.e.a.r etc), every one I've played on the consoles has felt inferior. Hopefully that might change with "Gears of war"...



Nothing to do with that. In fact it could be said that you are being geeky and **** about the consoles
I was baiting

I'm just not into games as much as you are I guess. Half Life 2 on the xbox was fantastic IMHO. I'm sure as good or better on the PC. same game just the gfx

far cry is menat to be better on the Xbox due to the extras they put in. better gameplay.
Old 07 February 2006, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Iain Young
Actually the best racing game I've played so far is GT legends on the pc, and the best fps games have also been on the pc. So that blows your theory out of the water
some how i dont think so lolz
Old 07 February 2006, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
I was baiting
I guessed that

far cry is menat to be better on the Xbox due to the extras they put in. better gameplay.
That's an old game on the pc though. It came out in March 2004 (if I remember correctly), so I'd expect any release of it now on consoles to be better as technology has moved on quite a bit since then. Compare far cry on the pc to F.E.A.R, and it really looks quite dated now.
Old 07 February 2006, 10:50 AM
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Can't imagine playing Command & Conquer without a mouse - I tried it on the PS1 using the controller and it was awful - probably why the later games in the series haven't appeared on the consoles.
Old 07 February 2006, 11:12 AM
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Don't forget the added 'convienience' of also playing on a console, it's nice to chill out on the sofa, as opposed to sitting at a desk with a keyboard & mouse, I spend all day doing that......
Old 07 February 2006, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobie-shieldy
some how i dont think so lolz
Half Life 2 was streets ahead on the PC. The xbox version was jerky, crappy gfx and totally lacked any online play.

PC's rock for FPS.
Old 07 February 2006, 11:31 AM
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That's why I've got both

If I don't fancy playing on the pc, I play on the 360 instead...
Old 07 February 2006, 11:35 AM
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have played many many years of FPS games.

trying to play FPS on the 360 is like trying to use a joystick to control your windows mouse, f%$£%£ awful.

racing games and shootem up/beat em up/football etc then the console is king.
Old 07 February 2006, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jjones
racing games .....etc then the console is king.
Nope. Nothing I've played so far can beat GT legends on the pc when played with a wheel. The physics, ai, and (in my opinion) the graphics) easily beats PGR3 into submission, even when playing online. I think PGR3 only allows 8 players at once, whereas GT Legends allows 32 - with no lag

Still waiting for a decent console non-arcade racing game...
Old 07 February 2006, 11:59 AM
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I'd like a 360 for the convinience (ie I upgraded my pc, but it still slows on 1 player COD2) Although I did play COD2 online on the xbox 360 the other day and it was messing around (server probs)

I thought you could use the keyboard and mouse on the 360??

I was thinking..

wireless keyboard and mouse, sat in arm chair, keyboard on lap, mouse on chair arm

I agree that FPS have to be using the mouse and keyboard (and I used to be anti pc)
Old 07 February 2006, 12:02 PM
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And on top of it all, you can edit videos, burn/copy DVD's, plug in musical instruments and use sequencing, 3D design and rendering, CAD, Printing and editing photos, P2P, Online Banking.

The expensive graphics cards are not expensive by professional 3D design standards e.g. Wildcat series and NVIDIA and ATI pro cards.
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
I'd like a 360 for the convinience (ie I upgraded my pc, but it still slows on 1 player COD2) Although I did play COD2 online on the xbox 360 the other day and it was messing around (server probs)
Doesn't slow down on my pc

I thought you could use the keyboard and mouse on the 360??
Nope. You can only use them in the dashboard to enter text messages. They are not active in games.
Old 07 February 2006, 01:15 PM
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Just go out and buy them all and there is no arguement.
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Iain - does the "older" GTR have online racing? I've been on the website but unless I'm blind then I can't see if it is or not.

seen it for £11.99 so quite tempted.

I quite enjoy PGR3 but I miss the strategic element of pit stops that you get with GT4...
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Yep you can play GTR online. Pretty bugged though apparently.
I got GT Legends in PC world for £14.99! bargain!!
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Gonna download the demo's - I know Legends is the newer title but I just prefer more modern cars.
Old 07 February 2006, 01:46 PM
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I've got both GTR and GT legends. GT Legends is a much better game imo. I've not noticed any bugs in gtr, but then again I've spent most of my time playing legends so I might not have discovered them...

I got mine in a double pack (gtr and legends) from pc world for £14.99 a few months back. I think they may have priced it wrong but I wasn't complaining
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GTR2 is out soon'ish which I'm really looking forward to
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Yes, it does look quite tasty


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