the silly rush to higher speeds?
23 February 2005, 08:27 AM
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the silly rush to higher speeds?
I was on 1mb Bt BB,and moved house and they put me back to 500 to test the line first.
I then realised the speed is the same,you just can't tell,and its perfectly fst enough to daily browsing.The onloy downloads are updates for various programmes blah blah
so are BT just trading on net ***** waving when only a few users actually need the download speeds?
I then realised the speed is the same,you just can't tell,and its perfectly fst enough to daily browsing.The onloy downloads are updates for various programmes blah blah
so are BT just trading on net ***** waving when only a few users actually need the download speeds?
23 February 2005, 09:10 AM
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Correct. I can manage quite nicely on 14.4. The higher download speeds are there so the pirates can hit there bandwidth caps quicker and the ISP can make more money by charging extra.
23 February 2005, 09:41 AM
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well,ive just downloaded the updates for windows in a nano second,and Pitstop says i'm achieving 400 ish,so what the heck,the extra tenner for the 2 meg just seems totally unnecessary for me,and i wonder how many others will be conned into this 'automatic' upgrade they give which seemingly REDUCES the cost from £28.99,yet the perfectly acceptable 500 is down to £14.99
very clever
very clever
23 February 2005, 10:46 AM
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xbox live does gobble up my cap pretty fast. I agree the speed thing is getting a little ott, 8mbps FFS 
it's the cap's that are causing problems.
it's the cap's that are causing problems.
23 February 2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RB5-Black
I agree the speed thing is getting a little ott, 8mbps FFS
Yeah I agree.
You can only download as fast as the BitTorrent hub that you are connected to allows
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23 February 2005, 11:45 AM
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I use a little app called Bandwith monitor. Can't remember where I got it but it allows me to keep a total over the months.
23 February 2005, 11:46 AM
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You could monitor the switch ports on a switch or DSL modem, if it's SNMP enabled, and you have the means. Looking at my graphs, when I play Counter Strike Source on a server with ~50 players, I'm using about 5KB/s continuously which is quite low.
23 February 2005, 12:06 PM
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Sorry to take this OT...
I have a DSL modem/switch/router/firewall combination. If I install a program on my PC would this be able to measure the traffic from my xbox as well if it working with XB Connect?
Steve,
How can I do that? What do I need to look for on the DSL gear?
Thanks
I have a DSL modem/switch/router/firewall combination. If I install a program on my PC would this be able to measure the traffic from my xbox as well if it working with XB Connect?
Steve,
How can I do that? What do I need to look for on the DSL gear?
Thanks
23 February 2005, 12:22 PM
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You just need something that can do an snmpwalk on the unit (to see what's available) then snmpget certain OIDs every N minutes. I use rrdtool to log and graph the data. I use UNIX for this, but I'd be surprised if there weren't Win32 versions of these tools (perhaps for Cygwin).
23 February 2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
I juse my XBOX on XB Connect quite a lot. How can I tell how much data is beig downloaded while playing? Is there a program that measures this?
Also give current rate, forecast etc..
Only records the data transfer on the PC that the program is on.........
More than one pc, you'd need to run it on each and add the totals to gether...
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23 February 2005, 01:16 PM
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They run 40mb plus in Japan over their normal phone lines!!!
Stop moaning!! The faster the better!
I have 4 PC's and an Xbox all sharing a connection so faster = better 
Stop moaning!! The faster the better!
I have 4 PC's and an Xbox all sharing a connection so faster = better
23 February 2005, 02:31 PM
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Bear in mind that 2megs doesnt mean 2 mb download speed it is 2048 kilo bits or close enough.
So divide that by 8 to get actual kilbobytes (thats the speed you see when downloading i.e 120Kb's a second) you actually get 256Kb download speed which is still realistic for people who want to downlaod movies and games in a 2-3 hrs.
So divide that by 8 to get actual kilbobytes (thats the speed you see when downloading i.e 120Kb's a second) you actually get 256Kb download speed which is still realistic for people who want to downlaod movies and games in a 2-3 hrs.
23 February 2005, 04:05 PM
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I think you're missing the point of what is going on.. look to the future when you will download or stream whatever you want. listen to music, watch a film, play an online game, video phone call etc. All this in your living room from your 'Media Centre'. It's the way it is heading.
23 February 2005, 05:08 PM
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agree with STI the speeds wont be ridiculous because the way use the bandwidth will change, that and probably with 8mb being the norm finally see a good business case for dumb terminals with applications being served across the lan rather than installed on a HD locally.
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23 February 2005, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
That's what I need, but I don't think PIPEX have that (at least, I can't find it). That looks very useful..
They also have similar tools for your webspace, broken down into individual domains if you host multiple ones. CGI space seperate from 'normal' webspace etc.
23 February 2005, 10:15 PM
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I understand what the future may look like,its just the marketing cons along the way that seem to be getting out of hand
£25 p/m is not cheap,forget whether you can afford it,its still a lot of money
£25 p/m is not cheap,forget whether you can afford it,its still a lot of money
23 February 2005, 11:10 PM
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to be fair while browseing at home on the 1mb BT line, its no diffrent from the 256 tiscali stuff i have at work for the cctv and my laptop
our home network has at the moment, 3 pc`s, a ps2 and a laptop sitting on it, so its nice to be able to use whatever without unplugging the others first lol
1 pc is in the other room, the rest is all in my room
our home network has at the moment, 3 pc`s, a ps2 and a laptop sitting on it, so its nice to be able to use whatever without unplugging the others first lol
1 pc is in the other room, the rest is all in my room
24 February 2005, 03:27 PM
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I've been looking into PlusNet now. I'm with Pipex at the mo on 512k. For less money I could (potentialy) get 2mb with PlusNet. What is PlusNets up-time like? There's only been on outage with Pipex know of. I do need to check what the max speed I can get on my exchange is though. Is there a way to do this on-line?
24 February 2005, 06:57 PM
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If the server at the other end of the connection has run out of bandwidth or is overloaded with requests, then it wont matter if you have a 10Mb or 2Mb connection. My ISP upgraded my broadband from 512K to 1.5Mb (for free) and very rarely if at all do I see a speed improvement. The only time I see (or percieve) a speed difference is when I boot into XP, my SUSE box just seems faster??
Edited to say I did notice a big increase in speed by upgrading my modem/router to one with a bit more omph
Edited to say I did notice a big increase in speed by upgrading my modem/router to one with a bit more omph
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24 February 2005, 07:20 PM
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Depends on what you're viewing. Have a gander into Members Gallery and tell me the 512 is no slower than the 1Mb connection
Anyway the benefits of BB is downloads, gaming, web surfing where there's lots of images/flash stuff etc.
Anyway the benefits of BB is downloads, gaming, web surfing where there's lots of images/flash stuff etc.
24 February 2005, 08:14 PM
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Games require hardly any bandwidth, they need low latency, and that has nothing to do with bandwidth at all. Any speed increases may mean you can download more _concurrently_ from different sources, but any bottlenecks are generally nowhere near you or your ISP.
That said, since most people are on some kind of 40:1 contention anyway, if usage stays the same but bandwidth is freed, performance may increase that way too.
That said, since most people are on some kind of 40:1 contention anyway, if usage stays the same but bandwidth is freed, performance may increase that way too.
24 February 2005, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
What is PlusNets up-time like? There's only been on outage with Pipex know of. I do need to check what the max speed I can get on my exchange is though. Is there a way to do this on-line?
Mike
