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Old 04 March 2004, 02:02 PM
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Question business objects & crystal reports * urgent *

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can anyone tell me if and how it is possible to use these tools to connect to a database (ms sql) residing on a web server to use to create reports?

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Old 04 March 2004, 02:05 PM
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If: Yes its possible.

How: errr how basic do want the explanation?
Old 04 March 2004, 02:09 PM
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do you need to install software on the server? we're trying to get through to the sales people but either engaged or voice mail!

ajm - just a brief explaination would be nice
Old 04 March 2004, 02:12 PM
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So long as you have a full version of SQL server you shouldn't have to install any software on the server. I believe both products just connect to sql server via TCP/IP or named pipes etc. as per any other SQL applications.
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is it really that simple? everyone we talk to says something different. crystal just told us we need crystal enterprise and crystal ad hoc, costing thousands per user, installed on the server?!?
Old 04 March 2004, 02:18 PM
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I think it depends on your application. Are the reports going to be accessed via the web server (i.e. from web pages) or via individual workstations/clients?

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Old 04 March 2004, 02:23 PM
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situation;

.NET website has an ASP front end with a SQL Server on the backend. people can enter info into the DB from the website. this is all hosted on a dedicated internet server.

now, someone, somewhere in the world wants to query this database from their local machine and build some reports (using crystal reports and business objects). so, the only connection available is via the web, tcp/ip.

can it be done? do we need to provide a bespoke xml service, buy some software (like this - http://www.dbbridge.com/dbbridge/dbbexamp_crystal2.htm) or is it easier?

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Crystal Enterprise is needed if you wish to access reports via a web connection - around £8/9K. Just looking into this at the moment.
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It sounds pretty simple to me then... they will need TCP/IP access to port 1433 (or whatever) of the SQL server, apart from that all they should need is a local single licence copy of Crystal reports.

I could be wrong but I think Crystal are probably "over interpreting" your needs!
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puff - cheers. that's what we heard as well, though that link above is only $475 for the same thing?

agrhrghrgrhgrhr seems so simple yet noone, even the suppliers can give an answer!
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If its simple reporting I would personally just do it with linked tables in Access.
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ajm - now i'm totally confused

can u link to a web database using access?? i thought it only worked with ODBC?
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Originally Posted by midget1500
ajm - now i'm totally confused

can u link to a web database using access?? i thought it only worked with ODBC?
Yeah, you would use ODBC which will work quite happily so long as you have a TCP/IP connection to the SQL server. If you install MDAC on the client computer you have the option to create a DSN to link to SQL server.
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cheers ajm - any ideas of a sample database on a web server that i can try and connect to?
Old 04 March 2004, 04:00 PM
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Not sure what you mean there... when you create the DSN pointing to the SQL server (assuming you have an SQL login with appropriate access on that server) it should bring up a list of available databases from which you can choose the default.
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we have sql server installed on a machine here on our LAN. we need to try and connect to one over the internet, i.e. a hosted database on a webserver
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I don't know of a SQL server on the internet you can test on to be honest... people don't tend to leave them open to everyone!

The main challenge will be safely allowing traffic in on port 1433 to connect to SQL server. I don;t know how your web server is set up but I am assuming that the only port that will be open on the web server will be port 80?

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