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Old 05 January 2004, 04:14 PM
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Main pc which shares files (video, audio, etc) across network to xbox and other pc's is there anything i should do specifically.

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Old 05 January 2004, 04:19 PM
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Back up all the data files
Old 05 January 2004, 04:31 PM
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Just copied everything over to other hard drive, just better make sure i install it on the right on anyways you've all got 10 minutes (the last few files ) before i is offline

Si
Ps i have back up pc's too lol
Old 05 January 2004, 05:41 PM
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All done
Old 05 January 2004, 05:42 PM
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Well all I will say is good luck!

PS tried to add your name to my friends list on xbox, but the full stop character was grey and wouldn't let me. So tried without, but said no such person! Strange!
Old 05 January 2004, 05:55 PM
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mynickers

Is that live or xlink, currently not on live

Si

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Old 05 January 2004, 08:05 PM
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Mr.Cookie,
If you need a hand with anything, give me a shout.
There was no need to transfer all your data like that, but I suppose there was no harm in doing so.

Before you start, make sure you have your partitions set.....and make sure you note down the partition table on a pice of paper, just in case the worst happens you can revert back.

I actually wrote a 12 page step by step guide for some online hacking magazine a long time ago. If I can find it, it may be of use to you.
Old 05 January 2004, 08:16 PM
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Gedi

Thanks very much if you could dig it out anything would be appreciated

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Think its at work on a disk.
I'll pull it out tomorrow.

It details the install of Linux as a second OS to Windows in 3 ways.
The windows way, the linux gui way, and the old skool linux way (command line / shell)
Old 05 January 2004, 10:47 PM
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Gedi

I've installed it as a stand alone os as if i didn't i'd decide windows is far easier at would never learn anything from the process

Currently i'm trying to get my head round mounting a hard drive which is ntfs, i can see it in device hardware browser but can't see it in devs/hdb

Si
Old 05 January 2004, 11:04 PM
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Cookie, yes it was - d'uh (on my part)!
Old 06 January 2004, 12:37 PM
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Out of interest, what flavour of Linux are you using?

Stick with it, it seems hard work, ugly and awkard at first. Once you get used to it, and become proficient, and have built it to your needs, you'll find its much more elegant than windows, and you'll also find your rate of learning about computers will excelerate past any windows user.

As for mounting:-

Assuming NTSF support is enabled in the kernel

1. make a mount point 'mkdir /mnt/windows/d'
2. find where the volume is 'df -h'
2. mount it 'mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows/d'

Might be an idea to put an entry in your fstab file, it'll save you having to do it again.

Seems odd your needing to do this. All the latest big Linux distros do all this kind of thing for you in the initial instalation. Things are becoming fully automated like windows. (takes away the learning experience for beginners though )
Old 06 January 2004, 12:46 PM
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oops, just seen original post, I see your on RH8

If your sticking with RH, you'd be better downloading RH9
http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/9/en/iso/i386

My recomendation would be to go on ebay and order a copy of SuSE 9.0 for £4. Or better still, order an original copy of SuSE 9.0 Professional for £55 and get 2 very large and very detailed Linux books with it. Deffinitely worth the money!!!
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Gedi,

If you do dig out the article you wrote I'd be interested in a copy too.

Roger
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I'll do it today and put it up on the net.
I'll post a link to it when its done.
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Much appreciated.
Old 06 January 2004, 02:29 PM
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Hi Gedi

In the install it saw the ntfs drive but it looked form the install that it would delete it, so i chose just the single drive.

What benifits would Suse offer and in your opinion whats the best front end (think that's what they are lol) currently using KDE but have Gnome installed too.

Cheers
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Old 06 January 2004, 02:35 PM
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Also in your opinion, whats the best windows emulation program for linux as i have a couple of small programs (xbox tunneling stuff) that there are no linux versions off.

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Old 06 January 2004, 03:17 PM
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When you saw it in the install, it was probably in the partition manager. The setup of viewing the ntfs drive is done 'behind the scenes'

SuSE is the most advanced Linux distro. Although I do agree with this, it is not just my opinion, it has gained this title from places like Linux Journal and many other Linux based information centres. Its also European as opposed to RH being American, so we can support our own
The main benefits it will offer you are 2 packages that are the heart of SuSE. The main one being YaST which is a full control centre for a Linux admin. It make everything straight forward removing the old problems of beginners editing config files and updating the system.
The second is SaX, which is a management package for display and periphials. Again, it makes things a doddle.

Front ends....use what you prefer. If I was you I would stick with KDE for the moment. Its very stable and well established. You will also find the latter KDE enviroments much prettier than the one you will be running now. IMO they are better than the windows layout. I think the latest version is 3.2, but that will come with SuSE 9.0 and/or RH9
Gnome is part of the GNU, it is a definite competitor to KDE and is coming through fast.

The best windows emulator IMO is Wine. Although it is not 100% reliable, it is amazing considering what it has to do. Imagine trying to emulate all those .dll's and the odd way windows does things.
Old 06 January 2004, 03:23 PM
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Thank you very much

Si
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