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Old 15 June 2003, 11:30 PM
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Our LAN uses a 20 port hub.

One office currently contains a PC with its network connection to the LAN

I was wondering if I could introduce a 2nd PC into this office and share this network connection between the 2 PC's ? I've never done it before but couldn't I just put a small hub in there ?

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Old 16 June 2003, 01:16 AM
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Bare with me hear, as I’m working with a very limited knowledge of networks etc. but I think you could run a mini mesh network using a direct connection from original PC to the new one through a hub and then connecting the hub to the LAN. A possible downside of this arrangement is that connection speed may be slowed with increased traffic.

As I say, only learning my self, so do please feel free to put me right.

Hope this helps.
Old 16 June 2003, 08:15 AM
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if I've got this right, you are trying to connect 2 pc's to one lan connection in an office room?
If that is the case, get a small network hub, connect the original lan cable to that, then connect another cable to the original pc, and another cable from the small hub to the second pc.
I don't think you can have 2 pc's on the same lan point, they each have to have a seperate ip address.
go here for a great resource for networking.
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Old 16 June 2003, 08:19 AM
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You should be able to cascade one hub from another. If the new hub has an Uplink port, connect this to any port on the existing hub using a standard CAT5 cable. if no uplink port, use #1 port on the new hub instead but use a crossover cable for the link. Then connect both PCs into the new hub using standard CAT5 cables.
Old 16 June 2003, 09:13 AM
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No need to mess around with stackable switches. If your office has a single LAN connexion in it, just put a dumb hub on it, then plug both the PCs into the hub. It's not the most efficient method (you'll get some collisions) but for your purposes it's fine.

Note that both PCs will need different IP addresses -- you'll need to contact your network manager to get one assigned. If for some reason you don't want to do that, then you'll have to use a router instead of a hub and do NAT. You could even get away with putting a second NIC in one of the PCs and using that as a router.
Old 16 June 2003, 10:28 AM
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Cheers lads.

All PC's on the LAN have dynamic IP - they're assigned from DHCP server on our Win2k Server, connected to our main hub.

So baring all that in mind, whats the best way to share 1 RJ45 wall socket (that connects to the main hub) between 2 PC's ?

The alternative is to obviously just run a new cable from a spare port on the main hub situated downstairs, but I want to avoid that if possible, cos thats "hassle"
Old 16 June 2003, 10:47 AM
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OK. In your situation the best thing to do is just plug a cheap hub into the wall socket using a straight cable. Then plug the two PCs into the hub, again using straight cables.
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Yup, a mini hub is the way to go.

Dabs do a 10Mbps 8 port NetGear for £27+VAT or a 10/100 version for £43+VAT.
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"straight cable" ?
Old 16 June 2003, 11:53 AM
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"straight cable" ?
Connected straight through - pin 1 to pin 1, 2 to 2, etc, as opposed to a crossover cable.

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Indeed. As opposed to "a straight piece of cable", implying that it couldn't go around bends

(AIUI, the problem with bends is that the '0's -- being round -- go round OK, but the '1's get caught on the edges )
Old 16 June 2003, 12:30 PM
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Old 16 June 2003, 03:22 PM
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Hi guys this is my first use of Scooby net after taking delivery last weekof the new beasty, so here goes with a bit of advice... @ least i know the IT stuff better than my way around the scoody so far!
To save you spending $$$ in your case go for a cable splitter, you can get a cheap version from Misco, you need one @ each end, this will split your CAt5 cable using the spare pairs. www.misco.co.uk cat.5 UTP cable economiser £13.99 each part # CS25458
http://www.misco.co.uk/?sn=2084984159
This will do the trick...
Also you could you a two port hub, agian Misco part # CS31111 £17.99 http://www.misco.co.uk/?sn=2084984159
The two port hub would be a little less hassle and best if your not to bothered that its a hub not a switch!

Dazza
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