Trout

iTrader: (1)

Indeed it is not for faster pings - I am getting around 90ms with a USB connection to Freeserve. I just want faster upload/download when necessary.

Mind you ISDN is SOOOOO much faster than the really sh*t analogue line I had before that constantly timed out, ran intermittently at 19k at best - I mean really bad. Benchmarked my ISDN connection last night and it came out at 70k! Obviously a dodgy benchmark!

Managed to get a 128k connection to Freeserve last night - the number to use is the No-Ties dial-up. It is incredibly quick! But perhaps not the cheapest way to do it.

Will use it for luxury moments of heavy browsing!

Rannoch

[Edited by Rannoch - 4/3/2003 7:44:05 AM]

Trout

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Does anyone use this - is it any good - what is your experience with it?

What connection speeds can you achieve?

Does it work with Freeserve up to 128k - as Freeserve seem unable to provide me with this information!!!

Cheers,

Rannoch

GavinP

I use HH and it is much better than 56K modem - if you already have two phone lines in your house, it works out about £5 a month more expensive to convert!

I went for the basic package £25pm and use an independent 128K ISP so no BT surftime fees.

I use Quik Internet (£30pm) who seem good although Fast 24 seems to be the front runner at the moment for 128K packages.

You can use existing ISPs but they will normally be restricted to 64K - there is a good table here: http://www.ispreview.co.uk/new/unmetered.shtml

Thanks

Gavin

Daz34

I will be moving soon and leaving my 1mb Blueyonder connection behind
No ADSL at my new house so I reckon 128k ISDN is the most cost effective option. It seems very confusing regards pricing though.
What sort of ping do you get with it?

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Gavin,

thanks for that - excellent response!

Rannoch

ChrisB

I have HH at present, although the exchange for my new house has just trigged for ADSL

We have it on the most basic package with no inclusive calls. Typical bill including rental and voice calls is around £90 to £100 per quarter.

I then pay BT Openwoe £15.99 a month for 150 hours 'unmetered' access 64k access per month. If BT goes down, I use a per-per-minute account with Titan. Back to back comparisions show Titan is blisteringly quick compared to BT but BT suffices for me at home (e-mail and web - any large FTPs I do at work).

I'd avoid a Surftime type offering that is tagged to your phone bill and go for a standalone ISP a/c paid on credit card.

You could carry on using a modem through one of the analogue ports HH provides, or get an ISDN Terminal Adapter (PCI or USB) for your PC. Then you can use the digital ports on the HH box to connect at 64Kbps. As this is digital, you *always* get 64k.

BT now offer some sort of USB Terminal Adapter to use off the HH wall box - I've not seen one so can't comment. A 'proper' PCI ISDN TA will be in the region of £30. Overclockers do the Asus PCI Card for £25 inc VAT.

Typical pings via BT on 64k ISDN for me are 70 to 90ms.

Chris.

dsmith

I use HH (no chance of ADSL for a while).

BT Bill is approx £25-£30 a month. + £14.99 for Freeserve anytime (64k).

The HomeHighway box now has a USB port aswell - so if its close to your PC (BT say 2M but USB Std is 5m) you can plug directly. I've personally not used it and always use either a PCI ISDN Card (TA) or these days I actually have a small Cisco Router.

If you cant get cable or ADSL broadband, ISDN is still your best option.

Deano

Kevin Groat

We've got the BT modem on the wall so it's a straight USB into the PC. We got half price installation @ £74 and poor old BT spent 2 days wiring it and sorting old faults Don't use 128k as we still need the phone line for incoming calls (main reason we got it. No complaints really (unusual for a BT service !!)

Kevin.

Trumble

I was on HH with demon + surftime for near on 3 years until DSL arived. I tended to use only up to 64k as demon didnt allow 128k on ST connections.

I now have a PCI ISDN adapter FS.

T.

Trout

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ISDN installed - but which is great for 64k - and my pings have come down by an order of magnitude! Yippee!

However need to select a good 128k ISP now - I know it works - BT claimed to offer 128k access - but not sure how!

Rannoch

Ken E

Does anyone know if ISDN, or anything else that is available not stupidly expensive and better than a 56k modem, will work with a fibre phone line ? I can't get ADSL because of this, and there is no cable where I live.

Thanks

Ken

boxst

Ken:

Is you order IDSN2e, then BT will install another line.

It's quite expensive though.

Steve.

Daz34

Is there any advantage using an ISDN card over USB connection?

Darren

Jye_0

Yes, slightly faster pings for gaming. The Auscom (Asus)adapter is highly regarded <---------------

Jye_0

--Does it work with Freeserve up to 128k - as Freeserve seem unable to provide me with this information!!!--

Yes, but you have to pay for the other bonded chan at local rate prices on top of your present connection charges and it only works with one number, Im not sure which one though. Have a look in the Freeserve ISDN newsgroup as peeps are always asking this. I dont know if this is why you want 128k but it wont make your pings any faster for online gaming and it will be an expensive way of DL'ing.

Daz34

So you are saying it is not worth getting 128k ISDN over 64k for gaming?

boxst

JyeO:

No, Freeserve do not support 128K ISDN.

There are a few companies that do: Gio Internet and 123isp to name but two. Have a look at http://www.ispreview.co.uk for some ISPs. The going rate is about £30 per month for up to 400 hours.

Steve.

Ken E

thanks steve, will have a look at it but if it's a fistful of dollars then I'll have to stick with 56k

Jye_0

--No, Freeserve do not support 128K ISDN--

They might not 'support' it but it does works.

As I said post or look in Freeserves ISDN help newsgroup, thats where I saw the number to use for bonding, failing that just try it with all the available Freeserve numbers as it will work with one of them.


[Edited by Jye_0 - 4/2/2003 1:35:49 PM]

Jye_0

--So you are saying it is not worth getting 128k ISDN over 64k for gaming--

No, it wont affect your pings, the way the channels work means say when playing quake 3 or something only one channel can ping the quake server to recieve packet updates.

boxst

Hello Jye_0:

Yes. I meant to say that FreeServer doesn't work at 128K without paying for your calls.

Steve.

Jye_0