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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:07 PM
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As you know im doing a web site.

i keep FTP'ing stuff up changing it etc till i think its right.

When i change pages some times they dont.

I phyiscally delete everything off the server, but yet it remains to appear!

Any logic?

i clear, cookies, history , temp.

So why does it do it?

Cheers because its getting annoying now

si

[Edited by super_si - 8/22/2002 9:07:38 PM]
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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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<As you know Im doing a website>

Yep dont we Si!!!!

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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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cud be that either your PC or your ISP is caching things?

Try SHIFT-Refresh which should force a cache refresh.

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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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back to the problem......
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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:23 PM
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no boomer still!

http://www.koncept-developments.com

try the smooth menu,if tailgates shows up pictures if wrong! because it stripped it down to text to get the hole site lined up right

si
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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:31 PM
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Si,

must be something fundamental, youve checked the datetime stamp on the files youve FTP'd up against those on your local drive?

If you've done a refresh there aint anything else to go wrong

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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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i cleared the server pace twice!

uploaded totally new files!

get on MSN in 10mins gaz
just off in bath

si
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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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Slighty off the orignal topic but do you spell check the site before you send it live?

I have found a few mistakes if you want to know what they are.

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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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i havent checked it!! i literally ripped the text off the pdf files!

owner can check that mate!

If your bored email me a list of corrections!
be very grateful

not ment to be going live for week or so sttttttttttttttt.....
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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Dunno what server you're running.. but..

On IIS it caches the files itself and sometimes you have to stop and restart the IIS service to get it to refresh the content.

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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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im using lee's titan ones! i really cant explain why its doing it :S

si
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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 10:35 PM
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Si,

Don't know about the Titan servers, but some servers I've come across do the following:

1. You upload files to your directory and subdirectories on the server via FTP.

2. A service runs on the servers (that you don't see) that copies these files across to the actual web server directories. I.e does a synchronise between your private upload area and the web server area.

3. Once this happens you can then see the pages via HTTP.

This service may be unnig say once every 10 minutes or once an hour etc. I think Demon in the old days was once every 24 hours. Don't know if they still do that though.

So, just an idea.

More likely, you have uploaded the same file again, I'm always doing that

Cheers

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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 10:41 PM
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yeah thats

gary said he could see the new version, when i saw the old still.
I wiped everything from the route and the recent folder.

seemed to work.

IE doesnt wipe it all correct i think

si
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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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a F5 will force a reload of the page, but many objects will be obtained from the browser cache. Ctrl-F5 Will force all objects to be re-loaded.

So for example if your page has 2 frames each with its own page a few graphics. An F5 woudl actually do very little as its onlt the "main" page which is refreshed. The code for the frames and grpahics would be got from cache.

Many ISPs also use transparent caching but a Ctrl-F5 should force these to at least check if the page has been modified on the server. (only relevant to static pages - .html .htm .gif .jpg etc..)

When scoobynet was still in .html, it used to take me 5 x Ctrl-F5s to force the Freeserve caches to re-load the page.

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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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Sounds very very much like your ISP has a transparent proxy between you and Lee's server.
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