Apple and encryption
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Allowing terrorists to hide plain and simple apple, should be ashamed.
Bear in mind it's a court of law that has said they must, not just a police request. You can argue the finer points of apple as far as price etc etc but when they refuse a request to do with a crime it draws a line in the sand, apple are wrong, plain and simple.
If it turns out he had accomplices and apple try to block it then they should be charged with harbouring a criminal.
Bear in mind it's a court of law that has said they must, not just a police request. You can argue the finer points of apple as far as price etc etc but when they refuse a request to do with a crime it draws a line in the sand, apple are wrong, plain and simple.
If it turns out he had accomplices and apple try to block it then they should be charged with harbouring a criminal.
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Allowing terrorists to hide plain and simple apple, should be ashamed.
Bear in mind it's a court of law that has said they must, not just a police request. You can argue the finer points of apple as far as price etc etc but when they refuse a request to do with a crime it draws a line in the sand, apple are wrong, plain and simple.
If it turns out he had accomplices and apple try to block it then they should be charged with harbouring a criminal.
Bear in mind it's a court of law that has said they must, not just a police request. You can argue the finer points of apple as far as price etc etc but when they refuse a request to do with a crime it draws a line in the sand, apple are wrong, plain and simple.
If it turns out he had accomplices and apple try to block it then they should be charged with harbouring a criminal.
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Yeah because it's purely an Apple argument...
Nope, it's something that you'd be able to install to any iOS device.
Nope, it's something that you'd be able to install to any iOS device.
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Encryption is not Apple specific, although they're really good at it and prepared to fight for privacy it seems. If Apple are made to create a back door then that's opened up every encrypted anything to the US government.
The problem we have here are a lot of people who don't understand the consequences will side with the judge. All because they used the terrorist word and he had an iPhone which may contain nothing.
The problem we have here are a lot of people who don't understand the consequences will side with the judge. All because they used the terrorist word and he had an iPhone which may contain nothing.
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Fair enough, but what about the option of the Feds handing Apple the phone, allowing them to decrypt and take all the data off it, and then handing that data back to the Feds? You would think that's the logical compromise here, which should see both sides come out happy, but where do they actually stand on pursuing that?
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If I posted it on here I wouldn't be hiding it would I
My issue is what happens when the code inevitably finds its way into the public domain. Then you've got a massive security vulnerability created by the very people who created the security system in the first place.
My issue is what happens when the code inevitably finds its way into the public domain. Then you've got a massive security vulnerability created by the very people who created the security system in the first place.
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I've never understood the argument of if you're doing nothing wrong then you've got nothing to hide. Just because I'm not a criminal doesn't mean I want everyone to have access to any area of my life. As soon as the ability exists someone somewhere will exploit it for their own gain. It's as bonkers and the governments idea to ban encryption...
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You don't have a smartphone then? You've never read an email on your phone or logged into a website? You don't have to have your bank card details with your address and security code saved on it for the information on your phone to be damaging. A lot of mobile companies won't even refund fraudulently made calls from phones these days as my friend found out to his cost
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You don't have a smartphone then? You've never read an email on your phone or logged into a website? You don't have to have your bank card details with your address and security code saved on it for the information on your phone to be damaging. A lot of mobile companies won't even refund fraudulently made calls from phones these days as my friend found out to his cost
there too easy to loose to keep anything irreplaceable on
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Difficult one,
I thought the request was only for that phone
Surely if they could write code that bypasses the security then the security has already been compromised, just because you haven't actually written the code does not really changed that fact
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The government would have us remove security features and add new capabilities to the operating system, allowing a passcode to be input electronically. This would make it easier to unlock an iPhone by “brute force,” trying thousands or millions of combinations with the speed of a modern computer.
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I don't think they know wether it's a simple 4 digit code or something more complex. My guess is they're not trying anything in case it is invalid and they reach the 10 invalid limit and the phone wipes itself, if of course, the phone is set to do that, it might not be, no way to know, because, catch 22, you need the passcode to have a sniff at the settings.
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