Apple and encryption
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Allowing terrorists to hide plain and simple apple, should be ashamed.
Bear in mind it's a court of law that has said they must, not just a police request. You can argue the finer points of apple as far as price etc etc but when they refuse a request to do with a crime it draws a line in the sand, apple are wrong, plain and simple. If it turns out he had accomplices and apple try to block it then they should be charged with harbouring a criminal. |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11797681)
Allowing terrorists to hide plain and simple apple, should be ashamed.
Bear in mind it's a court of law that has said they must, not just a police request. You can argue the finer points of apple as far as price etc etc but when they refuse a request to do with a crime it draws a line in the sand, apple are wrong, plain and simple. If it turns out he had accomplices and apple try to block it then they should be charged with harbouring a criminal. |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11797690)
Oh for crying out loud. :brickwall:brickwall:brickwall:brickwall:brickwall
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11797697)
why?
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your assuming it has perfect security already.
besides i dont care, if it stops people being killed by a bunch of nutters im all for it |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11797712)
your assuming it has perfect security already.
besides i dont care, if it stops people being killed by a bunch of nutters im all for it |
So there go potential jhadists - get an iPhone , youre untouchable
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Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11797715)
So you'd sacrifice the privacy/security of millions just for the sake of preventing what is actually quite an infrequent event?
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Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11797723)
So there go potential jhadists - get an iPhone , youre untouchable
Originally Posted by markjmd
(Post 11797730)
Is that really what's being asked for here though? I thought the Feds wanted access to one specific phone, not a general-purpose hack they could use on just any device.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11797715)
So you'd sacrifice the privacy/security of millions just for the sake of preventing what is actually quite an infrequent event?
What you hiding? |
Encryption is not Apple specific, although they're really good at it and prepared to fight for privacy it seems. If Apple are made to create a back door then that's opened up every encrypted anything to the US government.
The problem we have here are a lot of people who don't understand the consequences will side with the judge. All because they used the terrorist word and he had an iPhone which may contain nothing. |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11797757)
Given i have nothing to hide then yes.
What you hiding? |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11797746)
Yeah because it's purely an Apple argument... :cuckoo:
Nope, it's something that you'd be able to install to any iOS device. |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11797757)
Given i have nothing to hide then yes.
What you hiding? My issue is what happens when the code inevitably finds its way into the public domain. Then you've got a massive security vulnerability created by the very people who created the security system in the first place. |
Im with Jack :)
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I've never understood the argument of if you're doing nothing wrong then you've got nothing to hide. Just because I'm not a criminal doesn't mean I want everyone to have access to any area of my life. As soon as the ability exists someone somewhere will exploit it for their own gain. It's as bonkers and the governments idea to ban encryption...
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Originally Posted by JackClark
(Post 11797790)
What's your pin number?
i dont have one :thumb: im not stupid enough to have anything vitally important on a mobile device that can be lost |
You don't have a smartphone then? You've never read an email on your phone or logged into a website? You don't have to have your bank card details with your address and security code saved on it for the information on your phone to be damaging. A lot of mobile companies won't even refund fraudulently made calls from phones these days as my friend found out to his cost
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Originally Posted by BurningSky
(Post 11797912)
You don't have a smartphone then? You've never read an email on your phone or logged into a website? You don't have to have your bank card details with your address and security code saved on it for the information on your phone to be damaging. A lot of mobile companies won't even refund fraudulently made calls from phones these days as my friend found out to his cost
there too easy to loose to keep anything irreplaceable on |
For some light reading: https://stratechery.com/2016/apple-v...nd-encryption/
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I can't believe the US Government can't crack a simple 4 digit pass code on an iPhone haha.
Give it to a 14yr old hacker and they'll probably have it opened in 5mins. |
Originally Posted by Boro
I can't believe the US Government can't crack a simple 4 digit pass code on an iPhone haha.
Give it to a 14yr old hacker and they'll probably have it opened in 5mins. |
I want to know how they'd get the update on the phone so they can unlock it. Pretty sure they'll need the passcode to do that.
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Originally Posted by Boro
(Post 11797961)
I can't believe the US Government can't crack a simple 4 digit pass code on an iPhone haha.
Give it to a 14yr old hacker and they'll probably have it opened in 5mins. Difficult one, I thought the request was only for that phone Surely if they could write code that bypasses the security then the security has already been compromised, just because you haven't actually written the code does not really changed that fact |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11797972)
I thought the request was only for that phone
Surely if they could write code that bypasses the security then the security has already been compromised, just because you haven't actually written the code does not really changed that fact The government would have us remove security features and add new capabilities to the operating system, allowing a passcode to be input electronically. This would make it easier to unlock an iPhone by “brute force,” trying thousands or millions of combinations with the speed of a modern computer. |
Originally Posted by Boro
(Post 11797961)
I can't believe the US Government can't crack a simple 4 digit pass code on an iPhone haha.
Give it to a 14yr old hacker and they'll probably have it opened in 5mins. |
They should give it to the fat lad on CSI Cyber.
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Can't they find the guys finger to unlock it?? :norty:
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Originally Posted by Beastie
(Post 11798044)
Can't they find the guys finger to unlock it?? :norty:
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