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Old 12 February 2016, 12:21 AM
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Setting the date to Jan 1 1970 - the Epoch - on many iPhones will brick them until you remove the battery. Beware.
Old 12 February 2016, 08:27 AM
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I can't believe Apple would do something like that, it's gonna destroy small businesses and ruin the lives of users everywhere. We should start a class action suit and sue them for all they're worth (until which point I'll be sharpening my pitchfork and lighting a few torches).
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Think of the children!
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Just make sure you at least part pay with a credit card folks
That way you'll have a chance getting some money back when it all goes **** up

( Iv fcuked up big style here)

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Old 12 February 2016, 08:59 AM
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why would anyone do that though ?
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No idea and obviously Apple's QA didn't see fit either. But I can tell you who'll do it, the same kids that bent a load of iPhones and even more people who see "Get this extra feature by changing your date" written on a picture of a cat.
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Is it the first day big jobs wore long trousers ?
Old 12 February 2016, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Is it the first day big jobs wore long trousers ?
I mentioned the significance of the date in my first post.
Old 12 February 2016, 10:16 AM
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It begins.

Old 12 February 2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
It begins.

What's even funnier is that there are Apple users dumb enough to believe that. Even though there is no practical reason to do so, evidently people are doing this!

But whatever you do, don't take it to a third party repairer to fix this, it'll ruin Apple's massive profit margin.
Old 12 February 2016, 11:05 AM
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You don't think there are dumb users that don't use Apple products, I wish I had time to point a few things out but here's one. Back when I knew a lot about Antivirus my favourite macro virus was called Polite, it was named that because it asked if you wanted to be infected, it was a very successful virus.
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Would it not have to be 31/12/1969 to cause problems? My understanding from a quick Google was that 00:00 01/01/1970 is T=0 in Unix time, so surely it would just increment up from there?
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Would it not have to be 31/12/1969 to cause problems? My understanding from a quick Google was that 00:00 01/01/1970 is T=0 in Unix time, so surely it would just increment up from there?
It's quite a strange one, you can't set the date to anything before epoch. Be bloody careful, I nearly forgot to put mine back to automatic Dates prior to epoch have to work for most things so it's hard to fathom what happened here. I'm sure it will become clear as the day progresses.

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Old 12 February 2016, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
It's quite a strange one, you can't set the date to anything before epoch. Be bloody careful, I nearly forgot to put mine back to automatic Dates prior to epoch have to work for most things so it's hard to fathom what happened here. I'm sure it will become clear as the day progresses.
Interesting. I'd have thought trying to set it to 23:59:59 31/12/1969 would cause problems as you're trying to set the clock to T=-1s. Given UTC is ultimately just a counter, it should just increment from T=0 (if you set it to 00:00 01/01/1970).
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Interesting. I'd have thought trying to set it to 23:59:59 31/12/1969 would cause problems as you're trying to set the clock to T=-1s. Given UTC is ultimately just a counter, it should just increment from T=0 (if you set it to 00:00 01/01/1970).
Pretty sure I've read that that's normal and shouldn't be a problem. I would think a fix would be easy and rapid, but that's assumption.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
You don't think there are dumb users that don't use Apple products, I wish I had time to point a few things out but here's one. Back when I knew a lot about Antivirus my favourite macro virus was called Polite, it was named that because it asked if you wanted to be infected, it was a very successful virus.
I totally agree, there are a lot of dumb people out there who put a lot of trust in technology, mostly because these people don't fully understand the technology they're using and blindly accept what they're told by someone "more knowledgeable". A good friend of mine used to work for Dr Solomons and some of the stuff he told me beggars belief.
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Originally Posted by jonc
I totally agree, there are a lot of dumb people out there who put a lot of trust in technology, mostly because these people don't fully understand the technology they're using and blindly accept what they're told by someone "more knowledgeable". A good friend of mine used to work for Dr Solomons and some of the stuff he told me beggars belief.
Your good friend will quite likely know me.
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It's a small world!
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Jack, did you ever give a presentation at InfoSec?
Old 12 February 2016, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
Jack, did you ever give a presentation at InfoSec?
Lots of them. I may have thrown socks.


Slightly embarrassing but I don't often let that stop me.

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Old 12 February 2016, 02:58 PM
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Assuming you are the 5'4" guy.....you remind me of the comic book owner in The Big Bang Theory
Old 12 February 2016, 03:02 PM
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Easy now, Graham is 6'6''
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
why would anyone do that though ?
Android fans in Apple stores apparently.
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Lol @ the video, now it all makes sense.
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