imlach

Quick query - I currently have cable broadband through Telewest and it is TRULY always-on - ie, it is like a LAN connection and requires no initial connection (ie, unlike a dial-up modem if you see what I mean) before usage.

I now understand that ADSL still has to "connect/log-on" like a dial-up modem - but obviously does this faster than dial-up.

Does this mean that you can log on just once and leave it ON for weeks on end? I would prefer this - I don't want to have to reconnect every time I use it.

ie, does the ADSL ISP log you off after a certain amount of inactivity time?

If so, any way round this as I have my PC acting as a server which I may want to query remotely every so often.....


[Edited by imlach - 5/29/2002 11:53:52 AM]

Silent Monkey

Would possibly depend on ISP but I don't know of any that currently disconnect you routinely. I've been with BTO for almost 18 months (USB first then Router) I just stay connected for days and days and days. Best on the USB frog was 176 days. The router now sits there powered on and permanently connected (problems allowing).

suba

you can leave adsl connection on 24/7. some adsl modem/router let you (in the setup) leave the connection on so it will not disconnect.

btw, if you gonna leave the connection on 24/7, check that your modem/router doesn't get too hot! there have been cases where the green frog modem on top of the draytek router get so hot that it will hang/crash/disconnect your connection.

jamesjones

Also, with permanent connections get yourself a good Firewall. There's loads of tossers out there who are looking to screw your machine up.

J

BigGT3Fan

I've also heard that BT are starting to write to people who are on for more than 16 hours continuously telling them they are "breaching their contract" and to stop it or get cut off!

Happened to my dad!

So much for broadband always on internet - always on provided you don't have it always on! Eh?





Alex

ozzy

Alex, I'm surprised they haven't contacted you saying "your using in too much and would you mind stopping for a while"

Didn't BT get into to bother by covertly forcing users off the network if they were using it too much?

Stefan

imlach

Was he definetely told that for ADSL???

I know they used to do that with the 24/7 dial-up accounts, but that hogs lines I guess - ADSL is a permanent connection????

Maybe have a case if you were using 24/7 at FULL bandwidth? Must check their T&C's.

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

Yeah, I have ADSL from Pipex and I have left it on for 5 days constantly before and it was fine.

My mate at work has it running through a router to 2 PC's in his house and he has been permanantly connected for weeks now since he got it.

The advantage is that you can turn it off if you want/need to.

BigGT3Fan

Sure, though of course you can turn off cable too, just disconnect the modem


Alex

Damaja

I have a 2meg ADSL line going into a router and then into a hub. I have never had to dial up or logon, it is always on.

ChrisB

Alex, this cut-off thing is defo on BB?

BT Openwoe have just chopped the max number of hours a dial-up user can be connected in a single day to 12.

BigGT3Fan

Well, I've seen the letter he received.

Silent Monkey

Alex

If it is BB with BTO what HG is he on?

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

Well, there is no cut-off with Pipex thank God!

boomer

Turning the question the other way around, if i installed a PCI ASDL "modem" in my PC which connected directly to my phone line (via an appropriate splitter) - would there be any problems turning the PC on an off (rather than leaving it permanently on)?

I guess the question is, what happens to the ADSL connection when you turn the PC off, and how long does it take to re-connect when you turn it on again?

Cheers,

mb

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

If the PC is turned off then the connection is dropped, but it only takes about 5 secs to re-connect again!

Dream Weaver

Pipex have a rather good demo that shows the differences between dial up and ADSL:

Demo is here

DW

suba

are you sure BTO got a cut-off time now? coz my friend is using it to run his exchange server for emails!

boomer

Rich D,

so that's the hardware level sussed! Now i need to understand how to get my TurnPike software (i use Demon) to talk to ADSL - my mail is delivered by SMTP rather than POP (thus no NAT allowed?).

DW,

Thanks for the pointer. Sadly i don't accept ActiveX (being a Luddite), so i can't actually view it but some of the text based stuff was useful!

Cheers,

mb

Luke

Jesus ( And anyone elses god) That Pipex demo is great... How much a month for that???