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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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hey guys,

what gearbox would you say would be best for a 450-500bhp classic road car?

5 speed with uprated internals

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6 speed,do they do uprated gearkits for these?

i reckon 5 speed will be better for acceleration,but having all that power it may be better to use 6 gears to spread the power?

can anyone who runs either,give comments,experience and why that choice please.

thanks in advance

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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First off, forget POWER, it's NOT power that kills a gearbox, it's TORQUE.

That's why, when you go 2.5 from 2.0 litre, the increased torque kills the gearbox.

Mine is around 400/400 and I have a 6-speed non-DCCD box and love it.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:45 PM
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ok well torque should be similar figures as bhp,i hope lol.

alcazar,so u have a 2.5 with a 6 speed?
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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having had both a wrx bug 5 speed and blob sti six speed ,would never swap six speed.took some getting used to.but six speed is the nuts.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jme-rst
ok well torque should be similar figures as bhp,i hope lol.

alcazar,so u have a 2.5 with a 6 speed?
Yes. Was advised that going 2.5 with mods made it necessary.

Several people on here said so, as did three respected tuners.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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well the engine will be a 2.1, i was thinking about the albins gearkit or a similar one,but my mate said maybe a 6 speed would be better
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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Running PPG on our wagon with 490bhp and 2.1 stroker and this combination is amazing.


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i run a albins on a 2.1 stroker and its amazing tbh.
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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6 speed IME

but never ran a decent 5sp set up

but i liked my 6 speed
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 02:27 AM
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With a 2.1 running 450-500 you should be fine with either a 5 speed PPG or Clinic gear set tbh.
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I have driven both albins and 6 speed.if I had the money it would have been albins.but I didint and bought a 6 speed.just going in now at the clinic
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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Albins are tested up to 580ftlb of torque I believe and have slightly longer ratios than the uk box. Kev runs one in his 22b @ the clinic. My personal view and understanding is that anything 2.1 or above on a 6 speed equals far to many gear changers on the road. So you lose the drivability, but then there's the uk hawkeye 6 speed with longer ratios lol
As Leeroy says its down to funds and of course personal choice. There both very strong boxes.

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