Please check announcement about chat server!
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Looks great Webmaster. 
With the expected number of peeps on it, maybe we need more space in the chat box area. In bust times it would be scroling pretty quick. Also perhaps if we could have our BBS nicknames?
With the expected number of peeps on it, maybe we need more space in the chat box area. In bust times it would be scroling pretty quick. Also perhaps if we could have our BBS nicknames?
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Nothing's wrong - it's just something else I don't understand and won't be able to use - when I look at the announcement - nothing's there - wonderful for you all - that know what you're doing - but I don't - so I remain - frustrated - speechless and otherwise bemised.
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Anders,
It looks like it's not an M$ product... "just" a Java Applet running under your Browser's Java Virtual Machine.
It seems to disagree with Netscape as to where the lines should begin.... the result being I can see the end of lines but the beginning seems to disappear. This could be a bug in Netscape's JVM, but I suspect it's a bug in the applet... it brings up a window that's almost full screen size yet the text area is very small by comparison (perhaps only 800x600) the rest of the window being light blue. I suspect that the applet isn't doing proper bounds checking and is displaying text left aligned within the window, which is then being obscured by the light blue border :-(
FWIW, I call 800x600 very small because I run 1920x1440 in true colour @ 80Hz. I would use 2048x1536 but the Banshee driver doesn't like 2048.... 2032 works but there are some issues with the mouse pointer disappearing at the extreme edge of the screen. And yes, you do need one hell of a monitor to make this work :-)
Cheers,
Pat.
It looks like it's not an M$ product... "just" a Java Applet running under your Browser's Java Virtual Machine.
It seems to disagree with Netscape as to where the lines should begin.... the result being I can see the end of lines but the beginning seems to disappear. This could be a bug in Netscape's JVM, but I suspect it's a bug in the applet... it brings up a window that's almost full screen size yet the text area is very small by comparison (perhaps only 800x600) the rest of the window being light blue. I suspect that the applet isn't doing proper bounds checking and is displaying text left aligned within the window, which is then being obscured by the light blue border :-(
FWIW, I call 800x600 very small because I run 1920x1440 in true colour @ 80Hz. I would use 2048x1536 but the Banshee driver doesn't like 2048.... 2032 works but there are some issues with the mouse pointer disappearing at the extreme edge of the screen. And yes, you do need one hell of a monitor to make this work :-)
Cheers,
Pat.
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Can't believe a man of your calibre uses netscape pat...
that has to be one of the best chat interfaces I've ever seen that doesnt require downloaded software (ie runs as an applet)..and the applet was quick to load too !
Gets my thumbs up.
that has to be one of the best chat interfaces I've ever seen that doesnt require downloaded software (ie runs as an applet)..and the applet was quick to load too !
Gets my thumbs up.
Well I can't get into it from behind our firewall. I guess the applet is talking low level TCP/IP on some port.
If you can find a chat applet that uses HTTP then the firewall won't know the difference between chat traffic and web traffic (eg, like the chat applet on eGroups).
This may be a common problem for all corporate chat users. But hey, we should be working anyway
Regards
James
If you can find a chat applet that uses HTTP then the firewall won't know the difference between chat traffic and web traffic (eg, like the chat applet on eGroups).
This may be a common problem for all corporate chat users. But hey, we should be working anyway
Regards
James
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Yep...
firewalls definately cause a problem. Most corporate firewalls are only configured to allow the passing of std. protocols such as
HTTP (Web pages PORT 80)
FTP (PORT 21)
SMTP (Mail - can't remember port)
SSL (Secure socket layer - for secure credit card transactions etc.)
My friend whould runs the Eliseweb site came up against the same problems with folks at work wanting to chat. He decided he would produce his own chat system which uses normal web pages to get around the firewall problem.
You should check out eliseweb at...
firewalls definately cause a problem. Most corporate firewalls are only configured to allow the passing of std. protocols such as
HTTP (Web pages PORT 80)
FTP (PORT 21)
SMTP (Mail - can't remember port)
SSL (Secure socket layer - for secure credit card transactions etc.)
My friend whould runs the Eliseweb site came up against the same problems with folks at work wanting to chat. He decided he would produce his own chat system which uses normal web pages to get around the firewall problem.
You should check out eliseweb at...
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Sorry Webmaster...forgot to ask
People say that the data is scrolling quickly.
Is there a facility in the product you have whereby you can create multiple chat rooms or even allow users to create their own ?
This would allow a technical discussion to take place away from the bulk of the other conversations.
Cheers
Ian.
People say that the data is scrolling quickly.
Is there a facility in the product you have whereby you can create multiple chat rooms or even allow users to create their own ?
This would allow a technical discussion to take place away from the bulk of the other conversations.
Cheers
Ian.
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...and .... I'm still speechless.....!!!
I've tried four times (twice yesterday) and (twice again just now) Error message is 'cannot connect to this server' - but this is a Netscape system as well. I'll try again from home tonight and see if it works.
I'm getting gumpy now I hate it when a plan doesn't come together.
Mrs Grumpy
I've tried four times (twice yesterday) and (twice again just now) Error message is 'cannot connect to this server' - but this is a Netscape system as well. I'll try again from home tonight and see if it works.
I'm getting gumpy now I hate it when a plan doesn't come together.
Mrs Grumpy
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Have any of you guys come across GetGooey? This cunning thing keeps track of who's actively on a particular URL or web site, and if any other Gooey registered people are on the site, it lets you know and send messages to them. I can't run it at work (firewall) though...
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Lee,
I'll quite happily admit that netscape isn't perfect. But it does have one nice little saving grace... it works on just about every platform under the sun, which means that it runs fine under Linux whereas Internet Snorer is a bit more of a pain. I suppose that I could try it with WABI / wine or failing that just use a VMWare virtual machine to run 'doze (when you have two CPUs in the the machine you can afford to "sacrifice" one to 'doze).
If I want to get info quickly, I use lynx. No pretty pictures, no pretty animations, no Shockwave, not other rubbish, just pure unadulterated text.... it's amazing how fast it feels compared to graphical browsers! [it's la bit ike comparing a scoob to a 1 litre normally aspirated diesel truck :-)]
IIRC, there's only two browsers under Linux which have a JVM.... netscape and StarOffice (there could be others, but I can't remember). I could try running the applet under kaffe, but I'm not sure whether it will do applets or just applications (yes, there *IS* a difference).
As for getting through corporate proxies, you could look at running httptunnel; run hts on the chat server and htc locally, then use tranparent proxying to redirect traffic to port 8300 on the web server to port 8300 locally, and bind htc to that port... hey presto, you've got a TCP / UDP session tunneling straight through the corporate firewall. Just don't tell the administrators about it :-)
Cheers,
Pat.
I'll quite happily admit that netscape isn't perfect. But it does have one nice little saving grace... it works on just about every platform under the sun, which means that it runs fine under Linux whereas Internet Snorer is a bit more of a pain. I suppose that I could try it with WABI / wine or failing that just use a VMWare virtual machine to run 'doze (when you have two CPUs in the the machine you can afford to "sacrifice" one to 'doze).
If I want to get info quickly, I use lynx. No pretty pictures, no pretty animations, no Shockwave, not other rubbish, just pure unadulterated text.... it's amazing how fast it feels compared to graphical browsers! [it's la bit ike comparing a scoob to a 1 litre normally aspirated diesel truck :-)]
IIRC, there's only two browsers under Linux which have a JVM.... netscape and StarOffice (there could be others, but I can't remember). I could try running the applet under kaffe, but I'm not sure whether it will do applets or just applications (yes, there *IS* a difference).
As for getting through corporate proxies, you could look at running httptunnel; run hts on the chat server and htc locally, then use tranparent proxying to redirect traffic to port 8300 on the web server to port 8300 locally, and bind htc to that port... hey presto, you've got a TCP / UDP session tunneling straight through the corporate firewall. Just don't tell the administrators about it :-)
Cheers,
Pat.
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