I only have a panel filter and centre cat removed... 3inch exhaust.. am I going to see any gains in paying for a remap at the moment ?

 

Yes you will gain bhp but might as well do the downpipe, you should see around 50 horses

 

Yeah mate i'd do the downpipe as said and also throw on even a second hand Walbro just for safety

Could easy get both for £100

 

Will it not fail the MOT then ? I don't fancy the pissing around every MOT time ..

I was looking at the performance packs offered by the tuning garages .. £2k for 350bhp sounds fair ..

 

MY 2000, h&s downpipe(with splitter) ,std center cat, prodrive oval backbox, bob rawle tek3 = 284 bhp 336 ft/lbs.

straight through mot emissions every time

 

is the 60bhp worth the 500+ cost ?

 

Pimmo. Do it properly mate.

For a classic, Ecutek is no longer the optimal solution

a) Jecs ECU doesn't provide for in gear boost compensation (you want this)
b) That annoying emissions related boost cut feature can't be mapped out (you want this)
c) You're stuck with the maf, which is trouble on 99/00s
d) To get over a/b, you'd need a boost controller like AVC-R which costs a few hundred quid OR
d) There are just better ECUs out there that you can have for a few hundred quid more (i.e the money you would have otherwise spent on something like an AVCR) and will do away with the pesky maf.

Simtek would be the one to go for IMHO

Have look at my MY99. It's near enough the 350 mark and I can attest to the effectiveness of this set up.

 

for sure, It made the car so much smoother in "normal" driving, and for get up and go in the acceleration stakes, you run out of gears very quickly (std td04 is good for spool up), when I talked to Bob I said I was more interested in the low down get up and go rather than max power/top speed stuff which is difficult to use these days. Re fuel consumption I normally get around 28mpg on the 80ish motorway/A road run.

 

So I would be better to buy a pre mapped ECU .. if I understand that post correctly ?

 

First you just wanted to no any gains from your set up with a remap, now its looking like a few k job. So do you have a limit on funds you want to spend.

 

decide what power you want, work out what you need to do it then do it all with the mapping last. pay for the mapping once not everytime you make a change.
uk 200 worth changing the turbo for sure td04 won't see more than 280/290 so when paying in excess of £400 for a remap is it worth it ?
have a chat with a mapper and see what the best way forward is. just my opinion having been their done that.

 

Sound about right... I think I'll leave the map until I can safely afford to add a few more interesting modifications. If I was going get a whole new car from a remap as some people describe, then it would be worth it, but I don't have k's to spend.

Thanks guys,

 

just a though what year is the car ? you cannot remap the 97/98 version 3/4 ones you will need to upgrade the ecu. so might help you make a descision on what to do.

 

In my opinion, wait till you can afford to upgrade the turbo with the appropriate supporting mods. UK Scoobies need a bigger turbo to really go nicely

I really would just go with Simtek though, lack of in gear boost compensation and the presence of a boost cut is even more annoying when you have a decent blower!

 

After owning a 320 BHP WRX running on a TD05 and now a i've got a UK Turbo with a TD04.

I really do prefer the 'Get up and go' of the TD04 and can't decide wether to max that out at 285 ish and keep the quick spool up.You could always get the TD04 Hybrid and have the best of both worlds??

 

*Coughs* VF35!

 

2nd the vf35 if you want quick spool but much better power.

 

336ftlbs on a std td04? that seems good torque, I might get my wagon mapped on it's std td04.

 

James Heres the chart for the power/torque of my car,
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...6_image001.gif

 

Is it worth getting a 3 port boost solenoid also before mapping?

 

I don't think its absolutely necessary, I think it depends on the car.

When I first had my original TD04 mapped @ Powerstation, Rich couldn't achieve the boost he wanted (1.25bar) so he suggested fitting a 3 port and after that he had no probs. Just gives better boost control imo.

 

pmsl, take that figure with a very very large pinch of salt.

bobs figures are known to be, how can i put it, ego boosting lol

 

for a full decat, panel filter and remap then you wont need anything else.

any other bits and bobs are just overkill. if your gonna change the turbo thats a different mater though

 

Its not hard to get over 300 ft lbs on a MY99-00 classic shod with a TD04 if you know what you are doing, torwue measured on the road is ALWAYS higher than anything you would get on a rolling road, the rollers load the car in a totally different way. It would probably show 310-315 ft lbs on a DD set of rollers.

So Tidgy ... known ?? Pray do explain ... you are implying a lack of integrity which I take extremely seriously.

cheers

bob