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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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im looking for a 2 door to replace my classic uk turbo.
but is the P1 worth spending more on over the Type R?
what would you buy?
what are the problems with both of them?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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Do a search dude this topic was discussed about 2 weeks ago..
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by big_jim
im looking for a 2 door to replace my classic uk turbo.
but is the P1 worth spending more on over the Type R?
what would you buy?
what are the problems with both of them?
cheers
Gloves will be off for this one! A common thread that always promotes a good debate..............................as above do a search, it has been covered many times
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Type-R, almost a no-brainer better of the 2(imo)Wait for the P1 owners now.(type R is how the P1 should have been)Its just my opinion guys.

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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P1 pro's:-
Looks
Holding it's value

Type R pro's:-
DCCD - if you like it
Rear wiper
Intercooler water spray
Drivetrain - diffs' etc.
Low ratio (mad!) gearbox


A P1 is an STI5 in a 2 door shell - supposedly (flame suit on)
You pays your money and takes your choice.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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My mate has got a P1, wished hed saved his money and bought the equivelant type r.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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not being biased in anyway
TYPE R Limited
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Another non biased vote for Type R!!
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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a p1 is a type r with brakes
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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Its easiest put this way.

Type R, better handling, more complex to get use to,

P1, More user friendly, uk servicing at dealers.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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How do Type Rs cope on uk fuel if unmapped? If joe bloggs bought one straight off a boat and the filled it up at tesco on the 95 ron. What would happen?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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big_jim, have a read of scoobynutta555's posts on the other recent thread. Think they summed up the debate very well
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCKO
a p1 is a type r with brakes


Sums it up really. What with P1's coming as standard with some really sh!te brakes.

Let this knowledgeable debate continue.

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Let this knowledgeable debate continue.

OK, same front discs and pads on both cars. TypeR has one pots on the rear for that essential 10% of braking. I'd much rather have the ABS all P1s had and typeRs didn't being that for both types of cars will do 99.9% of their mileage on roads.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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non biased vote for Type R!!
P1 might be easier to live with day to day
If its for weekend fun as mine is,go type-r
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
OK, same front discs and pads on both cars. TypeR has one pots on the rear for that essential 10% of braking. I'd much rather have the ABS all P1s had and typeRs didn't being that for both types of cars will do 99.9% of their mileage on roads.
Selective quoting? So, are the standard brakes on a P1 up to scratch then?

BTW, I was backing the P1..
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Having driven both cars in question.P1 for every day driving more suited to the uk roads.
I own a type R WRC v/LTD with the longer 5th gear and the last of the JDM's.
I use it as a week end car and its perfect for that, abit arsh and uncomfortable after a wile but great fun. Slightly quicker of the mark down to the shorter gearing but the longer 5th helps at about 50mph. I did have a version 5 type R without that longer 5th gear and at around 45/50mph it was noisey and was sittin on boost with the fuel consumption suffering.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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type r and spend money you save on p1 on mods and make it quicker........
also less rust..


p1 if your happy would standard power and want a ltd edition uk car..
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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P1 just because it has the best looking front end of any Subaru...22b included
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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P1 - Road car.
Type R - Track car.

nuff said.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobymart
Having driven both cars in question.P1 for every day driving more suited to the uk roads.
I own a type R WRC v/LTD with the longer 5th gear and the last of the JDM's.
I use it as a week end car and its perfect for that, abit arsh and uncomfortable after a wile but great fun. Slightly quicker of the mark down to the shorter gearing but the longer 5th helps at about 50mph. I did have a version 5 type R without that longer 5th gear and at around 45/50mph it was noisey and was sittin on boost with the fuel consumption suffering.
I wouldnt go as far to say ypou would be on boost at 50
I have a V5 Type-R and can drive 80-85 off boost which would be just 4-4.5k rpm
However you are right, it is very loud and high reving over a normal car, i can forgive it tho with the rapid acceleration hehe

My vote is for the Type-R aswell
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I'd much rather have the ABS all P1s had and typeRs didn't
My type R has ABS....
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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WRX Type R's have ABS, STI Type R's don't. Unless it has had a drivetrain from a STI7 upwards fitted.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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I think ABS on an STi was a factory option iirc, my type r has a another rare factory option of digital climate control, so maybe mine was just loaded with some extra's? I have the fuses in place for ABS anyway.
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Hi Az,

I saw your car just before Christmas, very nice.

The classic Impreza's with DCCD; Type R's and RA's cannot not have both ABS and DCCD fitted. There was a conflict between the two systems, or so everyone always says. Perhaps you can find a nice greasy/icy road today and try it out at 15mph or so.

We'll have to catch up again sometime soon. Have you thought anymore about the tyres?

Cheers

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I think ABS on an STi was a factory option iirc, my type r has a another rare factory option of digital climate control, so maybe mine was just loaded with some extra's? I have the fuses in place for ABS anyway.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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I would not pay the premium that the P1 commands as there are much better options to be had out there for the same money.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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Type R. Get a Ltd if you intend to go on long journies as 5th gear is longer.
Mine blew at 34k. I'd now only consider a recent rebuilt/mapped for uk fuel one from a reputable tuner
P1's blow too as a lot of old scoobs did.

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